American Football, teams have disappeared many times, despite being fine and dandy.

He said credible sport , not a single country infatuation

My God, this is an embarrassing topic started by your typical whinging leaguey. Let's have a look one by one shall we...



That is talking about rules within the game itself, not rules administering the sport. The sport is the product on the pitch, and all teams play by the same rules on the field. You don't see teams getting more subs, extra points, etc.

So yes, RL is a credible sport, and the things you've pointed out are irrelevant whinges.

Yes it does, because they play by the same rules on the pitch. Off-field regulations are "league" specific and have nothing to do with the sport as a whole.
Again, stop whinging.


My God, this is up there with top whinge of the year. Nothing to play for? What about pride? The trophy? Money? Not everything is about promotion. How come you're not defending getting P&R between CC1 and the RLCN? Or is it a case of only when your club is involved?


No you didn't, you finished 11th.
And your point about the stadiums is again, another irrational whinge with little thought. There are more fans at SL clubs than there are in the Championship, so a stadium needs to be safe enough to accommodate them. And not only accommodate them, but needs to be of a good enough quality to attract them. If it's got crap views, then it'll put people off going, which harms the product.
You're just throwing your toys out the pram.

But they don't, do they, as on the field some teams are able to field more overseas players than others.

If you don't like RL, please go away and stop posting on these forums.

Selection of players is a competition issue. The players that are selected play by the same rules on the pitch. Selection of players happens off the field.

So ' selection of players ' is not an issue that affects what happens on the pitch ? , if that is the case then why have different ' selection rules ' ?

I'd make this your last ever post. Save making a fool of yourself anymore.

Silly me for thinking an RL forum was the place to post opinions.
If you don't like my thread, take your own advice and don't post on it.

Would it therefore be fair if one team could select more players than the other, as this would be a competition issue ad they would all play by the same rules on the pitch?

It's not a place for trolls who don't like the sport. You are pathetic and your thread is embarrassing. Go and watch Union because RL doesn't need people like you.

1) I think the post is a fair discussion.
2) I do like the sport itself, just not the glaring unfairness that seems to permeate throughout the RFL.
3) You are entitled to your opinion, but if you don't like the thread then don't post on it (or at least be constructive).
4) I don't really like union.
5) I suppose that in your opinion, RL needs people like you and not those who have other views like me, who just don't happen to agree with you completely and unquestionably.

I also think it's a fair discussion too. And it's clear that most fans think those running the game are turning the game into a joke.

A discussion that seems to be increasingly more interesting to Cas and Wakey fans than it was previously

shouldn't worry too much about headhunter - he's the most undemocratic contributor - ignore him and say what you think - the rest of us can either agree or disagree with you as we wish without having to resort to personal abuse

keep on trolling

Do you honestly think the subject of whether RL can be descibed as a sport, is one that merits discussion? I have no issues with people who disagree with me as long as they base their disagreements on logic rather than unfounded idiotic whinges.

Nah, they've wanted us out for years. We've always been interested, it's just as the deadline gets closer, other people start sitting up and taking note as well

quite agree but the man is asking if it's a 'credible sport' and you have to agree that episodes like the Crusaders for example doesn't help the credibility of our sport

Like I said on the other thread, RL fans are so paranoid and obsessed with preserving 'credibility'. There would be a lot more credibility if the sport was not almost exclusively played by a bunch of small towns along the M62. Nobody is laughing at our sport, there aren't fans of other sports waiting to pounce every time things don't go exactly to plan. Nobody really knows too much about RL and that's the problem. What damages credibility the most is the poor geographical spread and a lack of quality international competition, not clubs running into financial difficulty, that's something that happens in all sports.

You are quite correct , nobody outside the area's you outline care or even really know about the sport

So when the ones that do start to lose faith in it , where will we be then

As for clubs running into financial difficulties , not every year , only 4 years into their life , and after it has been predicted on these very boards by those of us with our eyes open , so if we could see it , why couldn't others

The whole Crusaders project has been an abject example of how not to expand the game successfully

I'm with Headhunter on this one....the sport lacks any decent media coverage. Most people outside the heartlands have no interest in League and no matter how many clubs like Quins or Crusaders they fastrack into SL, it will always be seen as a 'northern" game.

So there are two different arguments

1 How do we increase interest in the sport geographically ?

2 How do we retain ' credibility ' of the sport within its current support base in the light of the sports governing bodies stupidity ?

There's no substitute for cold hard cash.....the RFL need to market themselves better......they need to pay for advertising in papers and on TV with the condition that the media channel used covers the sport. It needs a full time press liaison officer who should be on the phone to or in meetings with the sports editors of every media channel in the UK every day.

Teams like London, the french and the Crusaders should be marketed the most...highlighting the fact that league is no longer a northern pastime...but a national sport.


Your opinion of the govening bodies stupidity is your own. Regardless of whether you agree with licencing, the murkiness surrounding the criteria for licencing and the way in which Crusaders were probably pulled into SL 3 years too early, the RFL are making a profit, have a good deal with BskyB and are trying to expand the games frontiers. If they were losing money doing so, then I would agree with you, but they are turning a profit AND expanding the game.....it's just expansion isn't happening quickly enough for some

1. By expansion, which means the RFL are in a no win situation because any attempts at this result in 'fans' like you on their backs calling them stupid and claiming that they are destroying the credibility of the game, when they are not. They are improving it. That's why opinions like yours and that of the OP should be ignored.

I am fine with expansion , as long as it is done properly , if you are suggesting that the Crusaders project is the correct way to expand the sport and bring credibility to it , then you really need to think again , it could have been done much simpler and better without headlines of visa irregularilities and administrations

Similarily telling lies and ' pretending ' that clubs are being judged equally is not the way to retain what credibility the governing body still has within the clubs support base