You should get someone to help you express your views full stop, because his/her post makes more sense than most of the tosh you post on the sin bin....

1. If a drop-out isn't taken within a fixed time (say 1 min) it should be a handover on the 10m.

2. Held-up over the line (IMO this law was changed too much in favour of the defence) should be a 'free tackle' (i.e. no advancement of the tackle count - a possible exception being on the last tackle).

held up over the line is still a tackle and you need someone to help you with your spelling the word is coherent

I hope it does tire them out, then we know we have to work on fitness etc...we need to step up and then maybe we can compete in the International arena.

I agree with both rules, especially the scrum one. The players that pack down to stop the clock, should then have to be the players that go into the scrum in the positions that they packed down to stop the clock, rather all break of and then get set in the correct positions.

You need to quote mate, then we all know you are referring to Dally....Hang in I am sure you will get used to it, most of us are not interested in how a post looks as long as it is good discussion point

cheers

erm I disagree with the scrum one and someone else made the point clear enough.
If you tried to interfere with the dropout one someone would just feign an injury in a point where they'd be interfering with play if it resumed.. trust me.
If however a referee were to see a player deliberately clear the ball an instant sin bin could be given

the scrum one is nonsense. More often than no it is the attacking team looking to form a quick scrum, so they rush and form it as quick as possible to get the clock stopped. the defending team will still simply wander over, form their scrum as they wish, and the attacking team would end being the one to lose out as they couldnt form their scrum as they wished as they had committed the crime of rushing to restart the game.

Clock off as soon as the ball is dropped/out of play for me, we have a clock that stops, why let it run down when they aren't playing?

Too much time wasted without playing for me. Just make it a penalty if they waste too much time, but for me I'm bored of "scrums" in RL anyway.

Dont say that, you'll get lynched on here!
i think 1min inbetween tries is too long too. stop the clock after 30 seconds.
The only person that loses out currently is the paying spectator

i dont post on the sin bin, sorry

can you translate what he said for me since you do understand it

My apologises some-one with a similar name posts on there..

Why would I translate when other posters clearly understood and joined in the debate...without resorting to having a go at new posters like you did, who put you in charge of how posts should look



Plus I suggest if you are going to get high and mighty and criticise posters you should at least use the right words..Coherent is the word you were looking for I believe!!

Players slow down the drop-out to gain recovery time. They don't usually give a fart about stopping the clock. Hence why I suggested a 1 min period... If someone is injured/feigns injury then get them moved off the field of play in time, otherwise, as I suggested, simply restart the game with a play the ball to the attack once the mess is cleared up.

I understand that it is there for a breather, which is against the attrition nature of the game (like it or not), but I don't really see a need for an arbitrary figure for the drop-out like 1 min. Just have it as a similar rule to throwing the ball away after a knock on, a penalty. From 10 in front of the posts probably?

Although I understand the problems with our fans and referee's discretion, but I don't think this is [ithat[/i much of an issue.

Why not just pack down with the players that have formed the scrum to stop the clock.

Anyway what is the fascination in constantly speeding up the game, any game like ours needs periods where players catch their breath.



Different poster chuck...

I think that if there is more than one in the tackle you shouldn't be able to drive the ball carrier back in goal for a drop out. If the guy can make it out that's good enough effort for me but allowing 2-3 guys to push him back takes the pi$$

I realised that, did apologise



I think if we want to compete in the International arena we have to speed up our game, to much time wasted in our game, often abused as well. I personally like a fast flowing game.

Speed up play the ball
No controlled 20m taps and quick penalty taps
Make one on one steal more lenient e.g. a missed tackle earlier doesn't count as 2 men in tackle.
Don't give penalties on 1st tackle for petty things just scrub the tackle count unless it is serious foul play

Now I went to the last final at Elland Road, we were quicker at every play the ball, we still got beat.

To be honest I'm wondering if the kick to touch is a bit harsh for things like offside, a tap seems adequate punishment for me, and have the kick/penalty attempt for more serious offences (spear/high tackles for example).

According to Ben Thaler, time cannot be stopped for a drop out until all of the team who is kicking the drop out is behind the line...

If this is the actual rule then that needs changing immediately...

this is why the aussies kick our butt unfit players not lasting the 80 min

It doesn't now. Or do you mean, a two-man tackle, where one of them falls off of lets go before the tackle is completed shouldn't count as a two-man tackle?

Id like to see any kick from your own half that goes dead result in the ball being handed over where it was kicked, there is no skill involved in players deliberately kicking the ball dead with the aim of conceding a 20m restart and the ball in the air nonsense should be stopped if a kick to touch is over the line by metres and somebody leaps from the field of play over the touchline and bats it back in it should be classed as being out