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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"It's an international event that has helped create interest.
These places won't give 2 sh*ts about wigan vs warrington, it just won't work on the same level.'"
Perhaps. I'd be interested to hear Wembley71's take on this, given their commendable success in Bristol.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Perhaps. I'd be interested to hear Wembley71's take on this, given their commendable success in Bristol.'"
It is about creating an EVENT......whilst purist fans of any game will moan about dumbing down, I suspect the total attendance for the opener and semis will be 130,000 and you can't tell me that the 4 games stand alone would have drawn that many.......Italy Wales 10k.....2nd semi with Aussies flogging someone 15 at a stretch and a couple of 30k's for the games featuring england
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| I think the last deal on the 4 nations the BBC made a decent offer and the RFL wanted to take it. But I think SKY tied their hands by significantly dropping the value they would offer on SL if they did not get the Internationals.
That was my understanding of it.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I think the last deal on the 4 nations the BBC made a decent offer and the RFL wanted to take it. But I think SKY tied their hands by significantly dropping the value they would offer on SL if they did not get the Internationals.
That was my understanding of it.'"
Risky game to play when you mess with sky.......don't lose sight of the fact of who props the game up in the uk before you start planning for anything. Even the NRL have to give concessions
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| Quote ="gutterfax"It's not often you are right my pseudo French buddy, but I think on this occasion you deserve a gold star sticker for stating the loving obvious. The NRL gets $200 mil a year for about 425 televised games a year.......the Rahs of the 6 nations get 1/3 of that each year for 15 games............'"
What the bbc paid for 6nations makes little commercial sense when you consider they could smash the 6 nations 30mill total viewing figure by buying the rights to SL for a fair bit less, show a fri night game on bbc2, live Saturday game, live Sunday game on BBC and easily get more than 30mill viewing audience as well as a hell of a lot more programming. Given bbc don't get a return on sports programming through advertising or subscriptions the amount they pay for 6nations is ridiculous.
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| 14137 at saints tonight, another very good crowd in appalling conditions
england v ireland listed as 24375, a stadium record for sport
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"What the bbc paid for 6nations makes little commercial sense when you consider they could smash the 6 nations 30mill total viewing figure by buying the rights to SL for a fair bit less, show a fri night game on bbc2, live Saturday game, live Sunday game on BBC and easily get more than 30mill viewing audience as well as a hell of a lot more programming. Given bbc don't get a return on sports programming through advertising or subscriptions the amount they pay for 6nations is ridiculous.'"
I actually asked the BBC to justify their massive handout in terms of value for money at the last contract renewal..Didn't even get a coherrent reply. It's got feck all to do with how good the event is or even what is might actually bring to the nation as part of free to air TV, it's about the people involved & money exchanging hands in one form or another, no more no less.
It's almost as bad the old F1 deal, not that that is much better now (sharing with sky) and F1 has been nearly as boring as RU for years..
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| Game 1 & 2 Eng v Aus / Wales v Italy : 45052 (74500)
Game 3 PNG v France : 7500 (10150)
Game 4 NZ v Samoa : 14965 (15200)
Game 5 Fiji v Ireland : 8872 (10,249)
Game 6 Scotland v Tonga : 7,630 (10000)
Game 7 USA v Cook Islands :7,247 (12,100)
Game 8 NZ v France : 17,518 (17,51icon_cool.gif
Game 9 England v Ireland: 24,375 (24,500)
Game 10 Aus v Fiji : 14,137 (18,000)
Total so far : 147,296 (192,217)
Percentage of seats taken up : 76.63%
Average per game : 16366*
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Game 1 & 2 Eng v Aus / Wales v Italy : 45052 (74500)
Game 3 PNG v France : 7500 (10150)
Game 4 NZ v Samoa : 14965 (15200)
Game 5 Fiji v Ireland : 8872 (10,249)
Game 6 Scotland v Tonga : 7,630 (10000)
Game 7 USA v Cook Islands :7,247 (12,100)
Game 8 NZ v France : 17,518 (17,51icon_cool.gif
Game 9 England v Ireland: 24,375 (24,500)
Game 10 Aus v Fiji : 14,137 (18,000)
Total so far : 147,296 (192,217)
Percentage of seats taken up : 76.63%
Average per game : 16366*
*Double headers counted as one'"
Game 4, 5 and 9 were sold out IIRC. Any extra seats in the capacity wouldn't have been available for one reason or another.
Four sell outs from 9 events. Has there ever been a more successful RL tournament?
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| Tonga v Cook Islands at the Leigh Sports Village is about 500-800 tickets from being a sell out also.
Absolutely gutted I won't be there.
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| Quote ="Jimmy85"Tonga v Cook Islands at the Leigh Sports Village is about 500-800 tickets from being a sell out also.
Absolutely gutted I won't be there.'"
That's a great effort. I think the icing on the cake has been the crowds at Workington, Rochdale and Bristol.
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| Got to say that up to now the strategy of the RFL on stadiums and pricing has been spot on, well done the RFL, yes it actually hurts to say it, but yes
WELL DONE THE RFL, I hope it continues through to the final hopefully with England in it
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Game 4, 5 and 9 were sold out IIRC. Any extra seats in the capacity wouldn't have been available for one reason or another.
Four sell outs from 9 events. Has there ever been a more successful RL tournament?'"
Tickets where sold but never redeemed.
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| I can't think of a poor turn out to be honest. I'm looking forwards to the WC in the future as well as the games between the less favoured nations hopefully have set a standard to go forwards with.
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| Looks decent crowd at Wrexham
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| I must say I have been very and pleasantly surprised by the turn outs for all of the games, lets hope it keeps up.
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| Thrilled with RLWC crowds myself, but the double edged sword is that Knock down Nigel will get credit for it and more years messing up the domestic game.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Thrilled with RLWC crowds myself, but the double edged sword is that Knock down Nigel will get credit for it and more years messing up the domestic game.'"
This is what get's on people's nerves Faxy. A lot of your posts, no matter what the thread topic is, come back to your beef with the RFL. I'm not saying your wrong, and I agree with most of what your saying, but it's tiresome.
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| Quote ="Errlee Berd"This is what get's on people's nerves Faxy. A lot of your posts, no matter what the thread topic is, come back to your beef with the RFL. I'm not saying your wrong, and I agree with most of what your saying, but it's tiresome.'"
Fair enough.....thrilled with the RLWC crowds to date!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Fair enough.....thrilled with the RLWC crowds to date!!!!!!!!!'"
So am I
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Thrilled with RLWC crowds myself, but the double edged sword is that Knock down Nigel will get credit for it and more years messing up the domestic game.'"
To be fair i think it's mainly been Sally Bolton running things. The rebel SL clubs won't take this in to account, they're focusing solely on SL.
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| To be fair I think the rebel SL clubs may take notice of this as it proves that if you have a strategy and a marketing plan then there's a very good chance of success.
Ian Lenagan is the press appointed leader and Wigan's marketing is the best in SL by a country mile!
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| Just under 200 tickets remain for France v Samoa at Perpignan. Should be a wonderful atmosphere.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Thrilled with RLWC crowds myself, but the double edged sword is that Knock down Nigel will get credit for it and more years messing up the domestic game.'"
Alternatively, a successful World Cup on his CV might make it easier for him to "move on to pastures new"?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Got to say that up to now the strategy of the RFL on stadiums and pricing has been spot on, well done the RFL, yes it actually hurts to say it, but yes
WELL DONE THE RFL, I hope it continues through to the final hopefully with England in it'"
RLWC are working as a stand alone company - so it's not the RFL I don't think? Obviously they'll have a close relationship.
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