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I got email to say Sinfield as Director of Rugby, James Lowes full time first team coach

https://www.therhinos.co.uk/2018/07/06/ ... ds-rhinos/ Heatherington's comments suggest that Sinfield is running the show, with James Lowes putting the cones out.

https://www.therhinos.co.uk/2018/07/06/ ... ds-rhinos/ Heatherington's comments suggest that Sinfield is running the show, with James Lowes putting the cones out.

Money and time well spent.Your succint posts illuminate our uneducated forum.
Henceforth I will take you far more seriously.

Except of course that your licencing figures include Bradford - well supported despite being a struggling team, and you post licencing figures don't.
But anyway it's not just about Super League, the licencing system was poison for many non SL clubs' crowds. Nothing to play for, why bother turning up?

London balance out the loss of Bradford who were down to 5,200 in their final year....London were 1,294 in 2014.

As for it not just being about SL, the only thing that has seen Championship crowds increase since 2014 was Bradford being in the Champs in 2015/16/17, HKR boosting it further in 2017 and Toronto inflating C1 last year and the championship this......crowds at paces like Fax/Fev for games against the likes of Batley, the cumbrians, London etc are nothing to write home about...and summer bash 2018 was the worst attended event to date......so the death of RL outside SL isn't the fault of licensing, it is the fault of the clubs who fail to attract fans to their games.......without Bradford or HKR turning up, there just aren't the fans to support professional full time outfits in the 2nd tier....Halifax are the best run club in the 2nd tier by a country mile, but they can't possibly hope to challenge on the back of 1,500 crowds.

I think not !

Google it think you will find it is. Excluding glasgow scotland

London – 9,750,500.
Birmingham – 2,453,700.
Manchester – 1,903,100.
Glasgow – 1,057,600.
Newcastle – 837,500.
Sheffield – 818,800.
Liverpool – 793,100.
Leeds – 761,500.

Made the top-8. They'll take that this year

Quote ="Willzay"London – 9,750,500. Birmingham – 2,453,700. Manchester – 1,903,100. Glasgow – 1,057,600. Newcastle – 837,500. Sheffield – 818,800. Liverpool – 793,100. Leeds – 761,500.'" The population of the actual city of Manchester is 510,000 https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... mbh5kbTV5M The population you quote must be Greater Manchester which is a county. Population of Sheffield is 518,000 Leeds 701,000 https://www.ukpopulation.org/leeds-population/

Quote ="Willzay"London – 9,750,500. Birmingham – 2,453,700. Manchester – 1,903,100. Glasgow – 1,057,600. Newcastle – 837,500. Sheffield – 818,800. Liverpool – 793,100. Leeds – 761,500.'" The population of the actual city of Manchester is 510,000 https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... mbh5kbTV5M The population you quote must be Greater Manchester which is a county. Population of Sheffield is 518,000 Leeds 701,000 https://www.ukpopulation.org/leeds-population/

Quote ="majorhound"The population of the actual city of Manchester is 510,000 https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... mbh5kbTV5M The population you quote must be Greater Manchester which is a county. Population of Sheffield is 518,000 Leeds 701,000 https://www.ukpopulation.org/leeds-population/'" how long did you traw.l google for articles that support your opinion? (whilst ignoring those that don't).

Quote ="majorhound"The population of the actual city of Manchester is 510,000 https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... mbh5kbTV5M The population you quote must be Greater Manchester which is a county. Population of Sheffield is 518,000 Leeds 701,000 https://www.ukpopulation.org/leeds-population/'" how long did you traw.l google for articles that support your opinion? (whilst ignoring those that don't).

It's not an opinion it's a fact. Whatever. Leeds is far and away the largest city in Rugby League. And while it still has no Premiership soccer team, is fertile ground for Rugby League. The Headingley complex is far and away superior to anything else RL has to offer. Always has been. I remember the first time I went to Central Park, I was expecting a Wigan version of Headingley, it was, even then, a dump. Of the RL test grounds from my youth, Central Park, Fartown, Station Road, are no more and Odsal is and always has been a joke, Headingley is the one survivor which can still claim to be worthy of international football.

got to laugh at blinkered Whino fans.

Enjoy the rest of your season, hope you turn it around.

Might be the largest city but average attendance per population they are about where hudds and Wakefield are

Regards

King James

using that measure Fev are the best supported team in RL

You have to be wary to go back and coach the team where you were regarded as a legend. It might not be right for the individual or the club.

James Lowes at Bradford - I'll forever idolise the bloke as a player for us but he isn't made to be a first team coach. He's an able assistant.

Keiron Cunningham - Another hooking legend. I'm not a Saints fan so I don't know how conflicted they are about his legacy given he was one of the greatest players to wear their shirt, but as a coach he appears to be even worse than Lowes.

Kevin Sinfield clearly has quite a lot upstairs to compliment his fantastic playing career, so perhaps he'll go ok, but it's a risk.

that is why he has Lowes to blame things on.

Sinfield won with his ability to con the officials a number of times.

Yes that's why Sinfield had such a great career, by conning officials - give your head a shake.

I'm not saying he wasn't a very talented player, just pointing out one of those talents was practically ref'ng the game. Ask any none Leeds fan, him and Burrow constantly bleated to officials.

Absolute tosh, any none Leeds fans are hardly an unbiased source are they especially as Sinfield led Leeds to many Grand Finals wins against their teams.

You do realise Sinfield was captain and allowed to talk to the officials don't you.

talk, yes, bleat, no.

Anyway, it doesn't matter now, he's DOR with a stooge coach to blame if it goes wrong (which I hope it doesn't).

Lowes a legend at Bradford
Sinfield a legend at Leeds

BUT
Hanley was a legend at Wigan, as was Gregory
Schofield a legend at Leeds
Crooks at Leeds & Hull

where are they all now?

Good luck to Leeds, seems you have a rebuilding phase (not just the stadium), I expect Hull to be in the same position in 2020.

Its easy to support a winning side and be all high and mighty when your club is performing well.

I'm hoping Leeds end up in the m8s and struggle a bit. Hetherington will then miraculously change his opinion on the restructure.

Those Leeds fans that think they will walk the m8s if they end up there better wake up quick. In the very 1st m8s we walked it, the following year we were relegated with arguably a better team on paper. Leeds have an injury crisis and are on a losing streak. Not good signs at all.

reality is not welcome, believe the myth that the Leeds fans do.

They sing a football song, tells you everything.

Maybe in Leeds "Rugbys coming home"

(you can't doubt their loyalty though, must be tough to travel from Bradford, Wakefield, Huddersfield to join a bandwagon, only to find the wheels have come off and the conductor is blaming everyone else)

Can you please give an example of Sky treating RL poorly?


Union has always been much bigger then League and has had a huge pot to spend.