It bloody well isn't.

Ok, they broke the law to get into SL. They wouldn't have got out of Champ 1 into the Championship without their illegals

I would agree with a lot of what Wellsy and Roy said in his last post but I would say that the RFL, despite a lot of problems including annoying things like not keeping a better check on Crusaders, are better than they used to be in a lot of areas. As for the licensing criteria, I might be mistaken on this but I thought that the SL clubs all agreed on the licensing criteria and it wasnt necessarily a simple, straight RFL decision.

I would also disagree on the assertion that the grassroots and amateur game is doing brilliantly. It is in some areas, notably the newer areas like Wales and London but back in the heartlands generally the amateur is a disgraceful part of our sport that is partly to blame for the lack of quality players in SL.

exactly working in britain without a work permit is regarded as being illegal.............hence illegal immigrants.

i feel sorry for the crusaders and their fans, it was a fanatastic shot in the arm for the game when they were formed and ok samuels wasn't the ideal person to take them forward they were progressing quite steadily. i blame the rfl for the current plight of crusaders for their indecent haste to get them into super league with basically a championship 1 set up. now they are in administration because of the folly.....

They were in the country legally, they just didn't have the right to work.

That doesn't make them illegal immigrants. It makes them immigrants who were working illegally.

Thanks for clearing that up for the flat earth brigade Gazemous.

No problem then , you won promotion with a load of ilegal RL players , does that make it sound any better ?

FFS Does it matter cru. They were employed illegally then. The result was the same. Funny really in the country legally and they get deported, many in the country illegally don't get deported. Either way Samuels was approached by the RFL to back a South Wales team with a cast iron promise for SL in three years, he got it, took the SL money, spent very little on the team, money has gone missing from pension funds (or not even reached them) and he made a few quid.

In short he only backed the team because he was asked and given promises by the RFL

Lads, let it be. We've dealt with it and moved on. Why can't you lot.

I am now looking to the future and think it can be bright on and off the field. If you'd prefer to look at the past and be bitter about things that were out of your control then so be it.

Question?

If the second year as been a success, and the administration is due to past debts etc etc. Why are the current owners trying to sell it?

It's been a big success compared to the first on and off the field. That is plain to see.

They are trying to sell Wrexham FC too. I am not sure what the reason for it is.

Politics.
In an ideal world they'd shift them both, knock the ground down and build flats on it.

Puzzling as Wrexham FC are not doing too bad in the league they are in

We will , when other people stop telling us how ' wonderful ' it has all been , when it plainly hasn't , look further back up the thread for the reason it was brought back up ?

This wouldn't have anything to do with Wrexham Village and all that nice land the Racecourse is sitting on, would it? Seem to remember that a certain individual was trying to move the soccer side out a while back to build on the land but the council refused. No, of course it couldn't.

Just one point from me, both Widnes and Crusaders had a less than satisfactory person at the helm and it's costing them dear (granted we had our issues with a licence as opposed to Widnes where it cost them one)

Hopefully once all the mess is sorted and we come out of Admin we will be starting from a much firmer base than we did last year e.g. crowds up, better team than year 1 and the only way Crusaders players set foot on Widnes ground is for the away fixture!

If someone posted something on 606 stating the moon was made of cheese would everyone get as uptight I wonder?

Yup. I [ihate[/i cheese.

Very likely but it would be on the Sin Bin rather than the VT.

Not when it's designated as a sports area in the Local development plan it couldn't

The away fixture against St. Helens, presumably. Saints to merge with Crusaders and play a few games in Wrexham seems a much more credible rumour than the original post.

Nice to see the Wrexham MP getting involved. Shows how things have moved on when we have Welsh politicians sounding off in the local paper [iin favour[/i of rugby league teams.

i thought they were promoted because of the RFL's expansion plans? You cant have it both ways.

(apparently if they had stayed in NL1 for three years they would have magically got more fans, more visibility and better players than they did when they got the added money, visibility and became more attractive to players when promoted)

Neither makes any sort of sense, why would the RFL delay the franchise decision to keep crusaders in, then merge the crusaders with another club? it would be utterly pointless.

The fact it got the fools chelping was quite funny though

Petty pointscoring, yeah that sounds like you.

for the game in wales, the old maxim does apply, any publicity is good publicity.

Few knew the game still existed, now look at it, its going from strength to strength at amateur level, we have a pro and a semi-pro team and the Welsh national side, with a heavy sprinkling of Welsh born and bread players has just beaten France and will represent the Wales next year in the 4 nations.