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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"The sponsors are more imperative to whether clubs survive than games going ahead I think. More and more sponsors are appearing on shirts, shorts even socks and every aspect of a matchday seems to carry a sponsor. As you say, we've already lost one sponsor how many more will follow?'"
Not to mention, you may have sponsors or potential future sponsors who are unhappy with exactly what i was talking about earlier in the thread. Its precisely why politics should be kept out of sport.
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We don't want them associated with the club then I imagine.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Not to mention, you may have sponsors or potential future sponsors who are unhappy with exactly what i was talking about earlier in the thread. Its precisely why politics should be kept out of sport.'"
Or we could attract more sponsors from being a club that shows complete equality throughout?
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But there you go, bringing it up again, when deep down you know as does everyone else that sponsors in No way would disassociate itself with a forward thinking organisation that promotes equality and progressive thinking.
But seeing as you have brought politics up
Hows them Florida coronavirus cases going?
Remember when Matty mentioned 200 to 2000 and you dismissed it
Quote ="The_Enforcer"Thats the narrative we are lead to believe but going off the stats, there has not been any spike in new infections so far despite the first major protest taking place nearly 2 weeks ago. Likewise, in many parts of the Florida where the beaches have been open and packed for over a month, no spike in new cases. These 'idiots' protesting could actually turn out to be useful idiots in that they may end up proving there is no need for strict social distancing and no need to keep supporters out of stadiums.'"
It was 5500 new cases a day Wednesday
It's nearly 9000 cases yesterday !!!
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You dont play the game, you dont have sponsors, but the other way round.
We rely on both and without either it's a worry, but we have to start playing again first.
None of the sponsorship deals will be cashed in of we dont play
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And this from Salford.
Dear Salford Red Devils Supporter,
Firstly, I would like to start off by thanking you for the overwhelming display of loyalty we have seen during what has been an uncertain period for so many. Without doubt, this has been the most challenging period of my tenure but, because of your loyalty, the club has been able to survive when other businesses have not.
The last time I directly addressed you was near the start of this current crisis, when the season had just been suspended. While there have been far greater problems for many during that period, it has frustrated me that I have been unable to update you further since that point due to the uncertainty which has surrounded our competition and professional sport as a whole.
While details are yet to be confirmed, we are finally able to inform you of the likely timetable for the sport’s return. This is expected to take place in mid-August for a 30th November Grand Final, with players returning to group training a few weeks in advance of this.
I am sure this news comes as a relief for all of us. While there is still a significant wait remaining, we can see a light at the end of the tunnel and can look forward to enjoying the remainder of what was set to be an exciting campaign for our team. I am sure all of you who attended our last fixture were eagerly awaiting the next one, after that outstanding performance.
This return will come with its challenges, as I expect you will all appreciate. Supporters will not initially be allowed into stadiums and, from the moment the players come back for their “mini pre-season”, they will no longer be eligible for the Government’s furlough scheme. This means our main expenditure will be reintroduced, long before we are once again able to raise income through the turnstiles.
This disparity from our usual income already creates a significant financial problem, which is made even more severe by the increased running costs which will be introduced as a result of pandemic-related safety precautions.
Each club is currently bracing itself for a return to training and the reality that they may have to independently fund antigen testing, PPE and regular deep cleans, at a time when these are all in high demand. The estimated monthly cost for this equates to a player’s salary for an entire season, which is clearly a major issue for our club and certainly was not accounted for in the operating budget.
The length of time for which this will continue and the expected date for supporters to make a return to stadiums remains uncertain, although initial plans are targeting late September. At that alarming rate however, the impact on future playing budgets would quickly become catastrophic for a club that is already required to consistently punch above its weight via shrewd acquisitions and cost controls throughout.
Our capacity to make up this difference in budget will also be significantly hampered. The clearest example of this is through the immediate loss of matchday revenue opportunities, but the pandemic’s impact on the wider business community will also limit potential to engage sponsors for next season.
It is therefore essential that those of us who are already behind the club continue to be. I hope that is through physically supporting the team from the stands for as many of the remaining fixtures as possible, but we must face the reality that it is unlikely to be an option for some time. Failing this, we hope that all of you season ticket holders will still be able to enjoy the matches you expected to on television, or through streaming services and we are working hard to achieve this free of charge.
Once we have greater clarity on this, we will write to you once again with information on your options. I must ask though, that everyone continues to honour their commitment to the club, if at all possible, for this season and, in return, we will look to provide the best that we possibly can for our loyal supporters. With new financial burdens placed upon us, we cannot possibly take on further unanticipated economic losses. This would undo the hard work we have done to build in recent seasons and have a disastrous impact on our future both on and off the field.
Myself, DoR Ian Blease, and Coach Watson will make ourselves available for a LIVE RDTV Q&A at 6:30pm on Friday 3 July, in order to answer any burning questions you may have. In the interim, I hope my message is both honest and clear.
I appreciate it is a particularly difficult time for everyone, but if the club is to survive the pandemic, I would ask you please where possible:
• Complete your season ticket direct debits
• Complete your sponsorship commitments
• Join Squad Builder
• Sign up for RDTV
• Buy club lottery tickets
• Buy virtual tickets etc. on virtual match days
• Continue buying club merchandise
Should you have any questions on this, or would like to make submissions for the RDTV Q&A, please contact us at: equiries@salfordreddevils.net
Although much remains uncertain at the present time, we will try our best to provide answers wherever possible.
Reds are rising!
Paul King'"
Worrying times for all clubs in assorted ways.
That's why EVERY supporter of their club/s should do whatever they can to help.
If money is not possible (and I fully appreciate everyones circumstances) then hows about thinking of other ways to help.
At the very least, try and be positive about the club and get others who may not usually support the club to get in board.
Get em to join the lotto (£1 a week)
Share social media post from the club to friends (not sure how that works etc but you know what I mean).
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And this from Salford.
Dear Salford Red Devils Supporter,
Firstly, I would like to start off by thanking you for the overwhelming display of loyalty we have seen during what has been an uncertain period for so many. Without doubt, this has been the most challenging period of my tenure but, because of your loyalty, the club has been able to survive when other businesses have not.
The last time I directly addressed you was near the start of this current crisis, when the season had just been suspended. While there have been far greater problems for many during that period, it has frustrated me that I have been unable to update you further since that point due to the uncertainty which has surrounded our competition and professional sport as a whole.
While details are yet to be confirmed, we are finally able to inform you of the likely timetable for the sport’s return. This is expected to take place in mid-August for a 30th November Grand Final, with players returning to group training a few weeks in advance of this.
I am sure this news comes as a relief for all of us. While there is still a significant wait remaining, we can see a light at the end of the tunnel and can look forward to enjoying the remainder of what was set to be an exciting campaign for our team. I am sure all of you who attended our last fixture were eagerly awaiting the next one, after that outstanding performance.
This return will come with its challenges, as I expect you will all appreciate. Supporters will not initially be allowed into stadiums and, from the moment the players come back for their “mini pre-season”, they will no longer be eligible for the Government’s furlough scheme. This means our main expenditure will be reintroduced, long before we are once again able to raise income through the turnstiles.
This disparity from our usual income already creates a significant financial problem, which is made even more severe by the increased running costs which will be introduced as a result of pandemic-related safety precautions.
Each club is currently bracing itself for a return to training and the reality that they may have to independently fund antigen testing, PPE and regular deep cleans, at a time when these are all in high demand. The estimated monthly cost for this equates to a player’s salary for an entire season, which is clearly a major issue for our club and certainly was not accounted for in the operating budget.
The length of time for which this will continue and the expected date for supporters to make a return to stadiums remains uncertain, although initial plans are targeting late September. At that alarming rate however, the impact on future playing budgets would quickly become catastrophic for a club that is already required to consistently punch above its weight via shrewd acquisitions and cost controls throughout.
Our capacity to make up this difference in budget will also be significantly hampered. The clearest example of this is through the immediate loss of matchday revenue opportunities, but the pandemic’s impact on the wider business community will also limit potential to engage sponsors for next season.
It is therefore essential that those of us who are already behind the club continue to be. I hope that is through physically supporting the team from the stands for as many of the remaining fixtures as possible, but we must face the reality that it is unlikely to be an option for some time. Failing this, we hope that all of you season ticket holders will still be able to enjoy the matches you expected to on television, or through streaming services and we are working hard to achieve this free of charge.
Once we have greater clarity on this, we will write to you once again with information on your options. I must ask though, that everyone continues to honour their commitment to the club, if at all possible, for this season and, in return, we will look to provide the best that we possibly can for our loyal supporters. With new financial burdens placed upon us, we cannot possibly take on further unanticipated economic losses. This would undo the hard work we have done to build in recent seasons and have a disastrous impact on our future both on and off the field.
Myself, DoR Ian Blease, and Coach Watson will make ourselves available for a LIVE RDTV Q&A at 6:30pm on Friday 3 July, in order to answer any burning questions you may have. In the interim, I hope my message is both honest and clear.
I appreciate it is a particularly difficult time for everyone, but if the club is to survive the pandemic, I would ask you please where possible:
• Complete your season ticket direct debits
• Complete your sponsorship commitments
• Join Squad Builder
• Sign up for RDTV
• Buy club lottery tickets
• Buy virtual tickets etc. on virtual match days
• Continue buying club merchandise
Should you have any questions on this, or would like to make submissions for the RDTV Q&A, please contact us at: equiries@salfordreddevils.net
Although much remains uncertain at the present time, we will try our best to provide answers wherever possible.
Reds are rising!
Paul King'"
Worrying times for all clubs in assorted ways.
That's why EVERY supporter of their club/s should do whatever they can to help.
If money is not possible (and I fully appreciate everyones circumstances) then hows about thinking of other ways to help.
At the very least, try and be positive about the club and get others who may not usually support the club to get in board.
Get em to join the lotto (£1 a week)
Share social media post from the club to friends (not sure how that works etc but you know what I mean).
Be part of the solution, not making more problems!
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| If we have 8k season tickets and everyone has a number each then thats over 400k a year and some might take more than 1. I have upped mine to 3 recently. If there was a big push on it and willingness then it could amount to a mega amount of cash. If we could get 10k wigan fans have 2 a week. A million quid goes a long way.
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| Quote ="JonnyBroad"If we have 8k season tickets and everyone has a number each then thats over 400k a year and some might take more than 1. I have upped mine to 3 recently. If there was a big push on it and willingness then it could amount to a mega amount of cash. If we could get 10k wigan fans have 2 a week. A million quid goes a long way.'"
Which gets more fan points? Not missing a forum or having the most lotto lines?
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Which gets more fan points? Not missing a forum or having the most lotto lines?'"
And your point is what?
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I'm in both camps as you know. I'm just asking.....
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| I have season tickets for myself and two grandkids and don't want any refund if it helps the club.I considered the lotto after IL s letter but as the lotto supports the academy and we are losing our best prospects ie sutton, Williams ,Gildardt, Rushton and possibly Smithies and Partington would I be helping wigan or teams in theNRL
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| Quote ="Cherry toffee"I have season tickets for myself and two grandkids and don't want any refund if it helps the club.I considered the lotto after IL s letter but as the lotto supports the academy and we are losing our best prospects ie sutton, Williams ,Gildardt, Rushton and possibly Smithies and Partington would I be helping wigan or teams in theNRL'"
Wigan
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Which gets more fan points? Not missing a forum or having the most lotto lines?'"
You decide eh. You seem to know the answer to everything else.
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| Quote ="Cherry toffee"I have season tickets for myself and two grandkids and don't want any refund if it helps the club.I considered the lotto after IL s letter but as the lotto supports the academy and we are losing our best prospects ie sutton, Williams ,Gildardt, Rushton and possibly Smithies and Partington would I be helping wigan or teams in theNRL'"
That is a bizarre way of looking at it to be honest but you are certainly entitled to look at it that way. What i would say is that money for everything comes out of the same pot which is IFL’s pocket to fund the shortfall year by year. As i have said before and it is probably getting a bit boring, there are 2 options.
1. Carry on as we are and produce players good enough to attract interest from the nrl which means we have a successful side.
2. Stop producing good kids and end up with a mediocre side?
I know which i want, hope this helps in your dilemma as to wether to join the £1 a week lottery which like i say is a great and easy way for the club to generate some big big money at minimum cost to individuals and a chance of winning something back.
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| In the case of Rushton, I find it rather strange that a any Aussie club should be giving a three year contract to any player when the player has never played any first team games and there are Academy players at Wigan and indeed other club's who are just as good and even played a first team game.
More to his signing than what we supporters know about!
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck":3cpvaaltIn the case of Rushton, I find it rather strange that a any Aussie club should be giving a three year contract to any player when the player has never played any first team games and there are Academy players at Wigan and indeed other club's who are just as good and even played a first team game.
:3cpvaaltMore to his signing than what we supporters know about!:3cpvaalt'" :3cpvaalt
Hmmm  interesting
Do you mean you know something that there is something that we dont know about?
Or
Could it be that you have absolutely no idea that there is :3cpvaaltMore to his signing than what we supporters know about! and your just throwing something out there to try and get a bite and/or stir something up.?
And before you reply just remember this.
There is a simple answer to this one
You either know that there is another reason why there is :3cpvaaltMore to his signing than what we supporters know about! or you dont.
If there is, then please let us know (even if you dont tell us what it is I'd just be happy to know, that you know, that theres some mysterious conspiracy as to why it happened, because I think your trying to plant a seed in peoples mind).
If you dont, then please let the rest of us get on with accepting that maybe, just maybe, theyve done their homework on the guy and fancy his prospects more than they do other players through, you know, statistical analysis, good scouting etc, and that theb player himself was tempted and wanted to go.
I think I know which one it is
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| They asked for fans if the wanted to speak to someone from the club to get in touch. Has anyone had a response from the club?
I sent a letter 2 weeks ago
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"We don't want them associated with the club then I imagine.'"
Thats fine, if Wigan only want sponmsors that agree with abolishing the Police and a marxist take over of the UK then thats their choice but my point still stands that it could turn sponsors away.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"But there you go, bringing it up again, when deep down you know as does everyone else that sponsors in No way would disassociate itself with a forward thinking organisation that promotes equality and progressive thinking.
But seeing as you have brought politics up
Hows them Florida coronavirus cases going?
Remember when Matty mentioned 200 to 2000 and you dismissed it
It was 5500 new cases a day Wednesday
It's nearly 9000 cases yesterday !!!
I'll expect some kind of "Fake News" response'"
Ive no idea what you are on about. At no pint have i dismissed anything. Giving an opinion and dismissing something are two different things. You should learn the difference.
Since YOU brought it up. 9000+ new cases, only 26 deaths?? Why have the death rates not increased with all these new cases? Because the numbers are being manipulated for political reasons. You will see, just like when i told you Edwards wouldnt come and you were one of those posting whiny bloated replies thinking you were the big genius.
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Since YOU brought it up. 9000+ new cases, only 26 deaths?? Why have the death rates not increased with all these new cases? Because the numbers are being manipulated for political reasons. You will see, just like when i told you Edwards wouldnt come and you were one of those posting whiny bloated replies thinking you were the big genius.'"
And 3 weeks ago
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To be honest, i predict that within 2 months, Covid will be almost unheard of and the numbers of new infections so small that there will be no need for social distancing.'"
Followed by
Quote ="The_Enforcer"Thats the narrative we are led to believe. Likewise, in many parts of the Florida where the beaches have been open and packed for over a month, no spike in new cases. These 'idiots' protesting could actually turn out to be useful idiots in that they may end up proving there is no need for strict social distancing and no need to keep supporters out of stadiums.'"
Yip, 9500 new cases confirmed yesterday, been around 9000 cases a day for 3/4 days now.
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As for calling the guy in the White House an idiot, perhaps we could list his life achievements next to yours? You dont want to go there.... working in a muffler shop in a back street in Wigan is not really what id call an achievement.'"
Yip, he thinks like you, let's stop testing, that'll solve things!!!
If we dont test they wont get it !!!
As for Edward's, hiw far did you have to go back for that one? Well done, I said no way on earth would he not come as he would tarnish his reputation 8n Wigan forever.
He didnt come, he has done, I was wrong.
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Yip, 9500 new cases confirmed yesterday, been around 9000 cases a day for 3/4 days now.
Yip, he thinks like you, let's stop testing, that'll solve things!!!
If we dont test they wont get it !!!
As for Edward's, hiw far did you have to go back for that one? Well done, I said no way on earth would he not come as he would tarnish his reputation 8n Wigan forever.
He didnt come, he has done, I was wrong.
I guess once we start injecting Titanium into players I'll be well and truly put in my place'"
Have you ever considered becoming a Politician?
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No
Have you?
Any reason?
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Leeds proposal to supporters:
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... es-4272198
Quote Fans who decide to leave their money in the club will have their season ticket membership price frozen for the next three seasons, enjoy a match day hospitality experience next year and be entered into a draw for a behind the scenes tour of the home changing rooms with Kevin Sinfield prior to a game.
Pass holders can also put the money towards a three-season membership or ask for a pro-rata refund for the matches they miss.
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https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... es-4272198
Quote Fans who decide to leave their money in the club will have their season ticket membership price frozen for the next three seasons, enjoy a match day hospitality experience next year and be entered into a draw for a behind the scenes tour of the home changing rooms with Kevin Sinfield prior to a game.
Pass holders can also put the money towards a three-season membership or ask for a pro-rata refund for the matches they miss.
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Only had a quick look earlier but the proposals look really good.
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Only had a quick look earlier but the proposals look really good.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Only had a quick look earlier but the proposals look really good.'"
I have repsonded to the IL letter and had no replay as of yet( as mentioned in ealrier post) . One of the points in my response was I would like to see what incentives etc that the club would be offering and I would respond again when I had all the facts.
My major concern is the possibility of home games with limited fans in attendance and the clubs plan for that scenario.
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