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| Quote ="Iain"Cas' own money, or private sector partners?'"
No council backing, no supermarket, so far all the money that's in the stadium fund is the money from selling the Jungle as far as anyone's aware.
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| Quote ="Victoria tiger"P Caddick paid for your ground not Leeds RL.'"
Wrong.
Caddick Construction Ltd does the work. Leeds CF&A (the Rhino's parent company and the company who, up until 2007, owned the cricket side of the ground as well as the rugby side) pays Caddick Construction Plc for the work.
The only difference is that the payment terms are slightly more favourable. The fact that the same person is at the top of both towers is irrelevant. Leeds CF&A still gets invoiced and Caddick Construction still gets paid.
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"If you said 'hypocritical' you may be nearer the mark. However, you fail to spot teh difference between the two.'"
The Ancient Greeks agree with my interpretation, and they invented it. That's good enough for me.
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| Quote ="Victoria tiger"lol well you could do i park the other side of the dual carrage way near the old ground.'"
Which is where I park also.
So when you said that there was nowhere to park, you actually meant 'apart from all the places where you CAN park, including the one I use'?
OK then.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"I haven't. At least not to anything like the same extent.'"
I obviously go on days when the cleaners have failed to clean
Quote I would. They might have 100 years of stale wee soaked into the fixtures and fittings as opposed to 5 or 10 years!'"
Quote But not every stand. That's ought to be a minimum requirement, in my eyes.'"
IMO watching RL in the sunshine on open terracing is magic. Certainly better than being cramped into a seat, sometimes stuck behind someone who is considerably taller. I would certainly like to have the choice of being in a covered stand if it is raining. Most traditional grounds in my experience have this option.
Quote Clean, working toilets, a seat where you don't have a huge piece of iron obscuring your view, covered stands, catering outlets and bars that consist of more than one burger van.'"
If you are stood up, obstructed views don't take away any pleasure. It's only a problem if you are sat down.
Covered stands - I have answered that above.
Catering outlets - my own view is that I wouldn't want anything to eat at a ground. Also, a few traditional grounds have club houses where you can get something to eat and there are always pubs nearby where you can get something to eat, as well as a number of shops.
Bars - The Variety Centre at The Willows, is IMO, the best drinking facility in RL. That's just one example. The beer outlets at Headingley are also very good in my experience.
Quote I am focusing on access for those who attend games in cars, because that's how I tend to travel. And I generally find it easier to get parked close to new stadia than older ones as they tend to be designed with this in mind a little more than stadia built decades ago. And don't quote Salford as an example - only a fool would leave his car unattended there!'"
A lot of spectators use public transport too. You can actually get from Leeds to The Willows in an hour by train and then tram.
As for parking at Salford, you could always use the car park behind the North Stand. Safe and relatively cheap. There are also parking facilities at a school two minutes walk up the road.
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| Quote ="Kosh"The Ancient Greeks agree with my interpretation, and they invented it. That's good enough for me.'"
Not a great endorsement. A famous thinker from that period spoke to plants.
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"
If you are stood up, obstructed views don't take away any pleasure. It's only a problem if you are sat down.
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"Not a great endorsement. A famous thinker from that period spoke to plants.'"
I fail to see the relevance, unless he was being ironic when he did so. Or possibly hypocritical.
Next thing you'll be trying to cast doubt on the existence of the Gods of Olympus. Unbeliever.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"So you haven't spotted the huge car park next to the stadium or the parking on the surrounding streets (within a 10 minute walk at the most) or even the huge car park next to the hospital and your not interested in a park and ride? Maybe we should chopper you in?'"
I can't imagine why anybody coming off the M62 wouldn't use the P&R at the KC. It's spot on and much easier than driving to the ground.
Then again, the sort who wouldn't is probably the sort of person who can't fathom out why it takes a while to leave when 12,000+ are all trying to do the same.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"icon_confused.gif'"
I think he means that you can move about and peer around the obstruction.
Unless he thinks that standing up imbues you with x-ray vision. Or they use transparent pillars in 'good old fashioned' grounds. Possible manufactured from solidified pi$$ from the overflowing toilets.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I think he means that you can move about and peer around the obstruction.
Unless he thinks that standing up imbues you with x-ray vision. Or they use transparent pillars in 'good old fashioned' grounds. Possible manufactured from solidified pi$$ from the overflowing toilets.'"
Pisspillars. It's the way forward.
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| Having been to virtually every single 'traditional' RL ground, I can't honestly remember any of them being as horrifically bad as some of the posters on this thread are making out. I certainly can't ever remember 'wading' through urine in the toilets.
Maybe these days we are a bit too soft and pampered.
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| Quote ="Jim Bergerac"Having been to virtually every single 'traditional' RL ground, I can't honestly remember any of them being as horrifically bad as some of the posters on this thread are making out. I certainly can't ever remember 'wading' through urine in the toilets.
Maybe these days we are a bit too soft and pampered.'"
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| Following the topic heading "Regarding Grounds".............has anyone got one for the Crusaders
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"The point is perhaps that they sought private investment for the project, rather than relying on the public purse.
Leeds and Hull KR, IIRC, are the only two that spring to mind who are currently funding their own developments entirely off their own back.'"
No , what happened is Tesco's asked for planning permission to build a supermarket , the council said " Yes as long as you build a RL stadium first "
Tesco's agreed , not quite the same thing , Wire were ' gifted ' or ' bribed ' into a new gound depending on how you look at it
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| Quote ="Jim Bergerac"Having been to virtually every single 'traditional' RL ground, I can't honestly remember any of them being as horrifically bad as some of the posters on this thread are making out. I certainly can't ever remember 'wading' through urine in the toilets.
Maybe these days we are a bit too soft and pampered.'" Central Park - the River Caves
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"The Shay ?'"
Nowt up with the toilets in the Shay
Anyroad, what do people want? Are you having a slash or a dinner party?!
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Nowt up with the toilets in the Shay
Anyroad, what do people want? Are you having a slash or a dinner party?!'"
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Quote ="DemonUK"Following the topic heading "Regarding Grounds".............has anyone got one for the Crusaders'"
www.islandfarm.tv/
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www.islandfarm.tv/
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| ....and you think you will still exist by the time that goes up
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Hull KR will announce an extension to their ground next week...
www.sporthull.co.uk/headlines/HU ... ticle.html
Another small step in the right direction to make CP a nice little rugby ground.
I can't wait to see that stand run the full length of the pitch, its going to be rivaling the South Stand (at Leeds) for noise
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Hull KR will announce an extension to their ground next week...
www.sporthull.co.uk/headlines/HU ... ticle.html
Another small step in the right direction to make CP a nice little rugby ground.
I can't wait to see that stand run the full length of the pitch, its going to be rivaling the South Stand (at Leeds) for noise
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| Quote ="DemonUK"....and you think you will still exist by the time that goes up
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99 % sure that we will still be gonig by the time that gets built.The Brewery Feild LTD have put a bid in to buy the club off Leighton Samuel this week and are waiting for him to come back from Dubai to have talks with him
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| Quote ="tarian crusader"99 % sure that we will still be gonig by the time that gets built.The Brewery Feild LTD have put a bid in to buy the club off Leighton Samuel this week and are waiting for him to come back from Dubai to have talks with him
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that will show his true intentions, what value he puts on the club, how much is prepared to sell (%ge wise) etc.
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| This is all a farce though.
They're moving, then they're not, if they go back to Bridgend what happens to sponsorship received in newport?
What does this other company know about running a sports club? they're only buying them as they've no one to run out of the stadium, Celtic cant stay there forever.
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