yeah thats the sound of all the hot air leaving your body mate.

keep explaining the salary cap, this is amusing.

try reading it again, you're still missing the point!

Smokey explaining how teh salary cap works.

unbelievable.

its only when it applies to Leeds rhinos that it loses its impact.

the irony

i sometimes wonder what you are reading, because it isnt what is written

Is is the same market. They all have something they want to buy.

Welsh union supposedly has more money to spend, however they bleed more red ink than they know what to do with.


The difference between League and union is that League is sustainable. In its current format, union is spending beyond its means.

Whether that is the case or not,

The fact that their SC is higher gives them an inherent advantage over the crusaders, who simply cannot compete, otherwise they will end up overspending on welsh players (relative to their value in our market) to keep them away from the WRU clubs (who wouldn’t be overspending in their market)

Its the same market!


Players are able to switch codes....they are all in the same market.

Some can pay more than others.....but its the same market!

No, it isnt, its two separate ones, the RL market for RL players and an RU market for RU players,

Some players can be both RU and RL players, some cant,

RL operates under a salary cap, and a players value in that market (the market to RL clubs) is decided as the relative worth under an SC

RU operates under a different salary cap, and a players value in that market (the market to RU clubs) is decided as the relative worth under that SC

When players cross over, RL is at a disadvantage because a players market worth in the RL market is decided as a relative worth within a smaller SC, so when players are available to both markets, we lose because we aren’t offering the same amounts

Do you understand?

Ill give you an example, an average centre in this country in RL may earn £60k a year, the average centre in RU may earn £70k per year, an average centre wants to test his worth on the market, the RL club would have to pay £70k to match his RU wages, but this is £10k more than he is worth on the RL market, therefore they have overpaid for him!

i took the fact that you were making sounds as you had no real reply.

im enjoying your explanations of how the salary cap works, quite enlightening.

Best thing RL in Wales can do is go after 1 big name with a centrally funded contract, that person is then contracted to 'sell' the game in Wales.
Shane Williams 3 years at 750k pa.

no way.

no gimmicks.

slow and steady development.

focus on season tickets and try to get crowds to 6000 or so.

You’re right, I don’t have a reply, mainly because im not explaining how the cap works,

Im not explaining the theory of gravity either, so I wouldn’t have a reply if you started pretending I was explaining that as well,

Just to clear up your confusion, im talking about the problems of asking CC to compete with the WRU clubs for players, when we are asking them to spend much less aswell

And im sure it has been enlightening for you, it strikes me that figuring out what a tap does would be enlightening to you

excellent.

selective amnesia is so funny.

can i have some of what you're on please?

smokey, dally, mind if if join in?



think saturday's game at the willows will be really interesting in terms of the standard of rugby that will be on show. i felt that leeds and the big occcasion brought some great rugby out of the crusaders and im looking forward to seeing if they can keep that up vs a team that has, like themselves, ust come from the national leagues.
if they stay lucky with injuries i think celtic could finish anywhere up to about 11th. looking forward to the game and a great weekend of rugby league.

You know, RL and RU clubs are competition for juniors and established players 365 days a year and some idiot on here still thinks there are two separate markets....

ok so there are cases where players fail to make the grade in the other code, but that is by the by. they've already been bought and sold on the market. i don't usuaully agree with what spills out of your gob leaguefreak but im with you on this one.

I don't care.

cared enough to reply

Probably not... Exeter play in the Summer Conference, and deal directly with the RFL. There's probably a notional BARLA tie-in somewhere, but I've never ever seen BARLA on any letterhead or development area cheque. We get our fixtures from, and report results to, Dave Lowe and Phil Caplan respectively.

That all sounds very complicated. Very Rugby League.

It's remarkably simple for rugby league! When I played up north I often wondered if BARLA was really necessary. Now I run a development area team, I know that it isn't!

I honestly havent given the time to look into how it all works, but from the little bit of info I gather in reading news, I get the feeling that BARLA was set up to make certain people feel very important about themselves.

I would suggest thats how its turned out, not why it was set up.

BARLA has very little to do with Amateur RL outside of the heartlands.
The politicing and hostility to development from some, has meant that the RFL runs the summer Conference.