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Tbf, that breach equated to under £50 each which could've come about for a number of reasons and is pretty easy to do. To under pay just 1 person 4.5k in a short period of time is a huge amount!
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Tbf, that breach equated to under £50 each which could've come about for a number of reasons and is pretty easy to do. To under pay just 1 person 4.5k in a short period of time is a huge amount!
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| What really stinks is that the penalties to companies go direct to government instead of to the persons who have been short changed, surely on top of the shortfall they should be getting recompense directly from their employer to the value that the government is decreeing the penalty amount.
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| "Employers who pay workers less than the minimum wage have to pay back arrears of wages to the worker at current minimum wage rates. They also face hefty financial penalties of up to 200% of arrears - capped at £10,000 per worker - which are paid to the government. Each of the companies named today have paid back their workers, and were forced to pay financial penalties."
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| Quote ="WestEndThinker"Indeed, and it really is nobody else's business, IF true and IF said individual carried on working it is not an issue, same as the alleged people working for Tesco, a lot of fake news around at the moment, but some swallow it up.
Tom Hanks moved to Greece because paedophilia is deemed a disability - false
Al Pacino has been convicted of child molesting - false
This is Warringtons year - false
People need to stop believing everything they read online!'"
What are you on about with 'fake news'?
The government has literally cited Wigan for breach of minimum wage legislation.
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| I always thought that Eric Pollard was a tight @rsed Wigan T₩@T
*I wonder if the admin employee was a players wife* ?
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| Major firms and organisations should be named and shamed for breaching minimum wage legislation.
That way, consumers can vote with their wallets and decide to not add to the profits of unscrupulous employers.
This, by the way, does not make me a 'lefty' (as I've been accused of being on here, bizarrely). It makes capitalism work more fairly and efficiently.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"I always thought that Eric Pollard was a tight @rsed Wigan T₩@T
*I wonder if the admin employee was a players wife* ?'"
Wouldn't they have paid her more in that case and not less?
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| Quote ="davids"Major firms and organisations should be named and shamed for breaching minimum wage legislation.
That way, consumers can vote with their wallets and decide to not add to the profits of unscrupulous employers.
This, by the way, does not make me a 'lefty' (as I've been accused of being on here, bizarrely). It makes capitalism work more fairly and efficiently.'"
That's exactly what happened (months ago) with a list of employers who paid less than minimum wage.
Clearly Wigan entered the wrong hourly rate or number of hours in the system (bit like my employer forgetting to enter my overtime) for that one employee and sorted it as soon as they could. Absolute b@stards.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"That's exactly what happened (months ago) with a list of employers who paid less than minimum wage.
Clearly Wigan entered the wrong hourly rate or number of hours in the system (bit like my employer forgetting to enter my overtime) for that one employee and sorted it as soon as they could. Absolute b@stards.'"
Then good on them for owning up and rectifying their error. That deserves credit.
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| Quote ="davids"Then good on them for owning up and rectifying their error. That deserves credit.'"
Had little choice when the government caught them!?
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| Quote ="Dally2"Had little choice when the government caught them!?'"
Was sorted before that I think
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| And there is those that want to turn a blind eye to the practice of under paying the minimum wage and think it doesn't happen and then call it fake news disgraceful with no moral standards
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| Its 1 employee out of how many? Its obviously just an admin error and they shouldnt really be subjected to all this vitriol.
Mistakes happen.
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"Its 1 employee out of how many? Its obviously just an admin error and they shouldnt really be subjected to all this vitriol.
Mistakes happen.'"
True, mistakes do happen. But I don't think this isn't the first "admin error" which implies that there is a lack of financial control systems in place which means that this department at least is not particularly well ran.
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| Could the Wigan one and indeed others have being when someone has a birthday and jumps into the next minimum wage bracket and the rate was not changed? Yes a mistake but one that should never happen whether you have 1 employee or tens of thousands, you should have a system that is geared to ensure that those in your employ are being paid the correct amount and that basic checks are in place whether that be computerised or paper based.
Still, this just shows that many companies, not just the ones paying less, are not paying living wages though the minimum wage has gone up by 41% over the last 8 years. Scandalous however that just because someone is of a certain age they can be paid significantly less, just think if you are 71 and you are told your minimum wage is lower than someone who is 65, and when you get older the less money a company can pay you.
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| Quote ="ryano"Admin error since corrected. Move on!'"
I’d agree normally but had that been Trinity would people be saying that? No we’d have a sanctimonious thread fifty pages long by now.
Also it’s Wigan, no club seems to have more ‘admin’ errors than Wigan, so maybe we shouldn’t just move on. Wigan as there fans and the media love to tell us are a giant of the game, with that comes a certain responsibility. Compared to some SL clubs that are run by the seat of their pants surely a wealthy club like Wigan should suffer the least ‘admin’ errors not the most.
Just a thought.
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| Quote ="vastman"I’d agree normally but had that been Trinity would people be saying that? No we’d have a sanctimonious thread fifty pages long by now.
Also it’s Wigan, no club seems to have more ‘admin’ errors than Wigan, so maybe we shouldn’t just move on. Wigan as there fans and the media love to tell us are a giant of the game, with that comes a certain responsibility. Compared to some SL clubs that are run by the seat of their pants surely a wealthy club like Wigan should suffer the least ‘admin’ errors not the most.
Just a thought.'"
So what do you suggest?
Wigan have dealt with the issue which has satisfied HMRC. What else is there to do?
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"So what do you suggest?
Wigan have dealt with the issue which has satisfied HMRC. What else is there to do?'"
I suggest your admin do there job and not let it get that far in the first place. Not rocket science as the saying goes.
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| Quote ="vastman"I suggest your admin do there job and not let it get that far in the first place. Not rocket science as the saying goes.'"
You never spot a flaw in the system until it happens.
I doubt it has even registered outside the sport TBH
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| [del[/del Quote ="Egg Chasing"Wouldn't they have paid her more in that case and not less?'"
Possibly, though I was really just looking to get a bite from one of those Wigan Pier fish !!!
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"[del[/delPossibly, though I was really just looking to get a bite from one of those Wigan Pier fish !!!'"
Wouldnt wanna be a fish in there
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"You never spot a flaw in the system until it happens.
I doubt it has even registered outside the sport TBH'"
Sorry but that's a load of twaddle, this is basic stuff, it's written out in big bold characters for employers, I'm not finger pointing at Wigan particularly but this is one of the easiest admin things to do and keep a check on.
Only companies that don't really do their proper due diligence regards payroll admin and/or deliberately attempting to and indeed getting away with underpaying end up in this situation. Only around one in 8 companies are caught underpaying staff according to HMRC.
If Wigan rectified and paid the deficit before being notified by HMRC then HMRC should not have outed them in my opinion, yes it's a substantial wedge for one person but it is one person/isolated incident (hopefully) and was rectified pro actively according to what people have said.
We should move along until the next club make a stuff up and then we can have a pop accordingly
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Wouldnt wanna be a fish in there
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You're right there !
Have they just converted the Pier to fancy apartments ?
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"You're right there !
Have they just converted the Pier to fancy apartments ?'"
Built some new apartments. They are conveting the 3 buildings into bars and restaurants supposedly.
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