I always thought the weather in toronto was the issue during feb / march but it doesn't seem too dissimilar to here.

Similar to what they were doing last season.

But the current proposed fixtures overcome (for them) the 'rigours' of travel. They are already training in the UK (Manchester) prior to the eleven away games, then they just have one journey to Canada (except for the 'Summer Bash') to overcome, prior to their eleven home games. Every team visiting Canada, has the 'rigour' to overcome after their trip to Canada, and their trip back to UK. That's what may be seen as an unfair advantage to TW.

Finally, a question: - How long does it take to relay an 'artificial' pitch?

Never travelled to Toronto have you?

"Jet Lag mode" ffs

It's only 4/5 hours time difference. Travelling West too. Did any travelling players complain of jet lag in 2017?


Middle 8's, surely they'll do what they did this season. 3/4 away then 3/4 home?

Seems fine and logical to me.

See your cells were left at home today, do they not travel East on the way back?ffs If you cant see the difference between playing pub teams and fighting for a SL spot then this discussion is pointless. If Jet lag aint an issue for one then it aint for the other, by that logic they should fit in the standard format of mainly home then away. Do you believe this format would be acceptable when they reach SL, do you believe the SL clubs would vote to accept it?? Did the Championship clubs vote to accept this btw

I agree

The jet-lag thing is overplayed. American sports teams travel these sorts of distances and back-up the following week routinely. Manchester to Toronto is comparable to a coast-to-coast flight in the US and you rarely hear NFL, NBA or MLB players complaining about jet lag. Similarly, some of the distances traveled in Super Rugby are pretty intense.

Exactly. I’ve done the trip myself plenty of times, jet lag simply isn’t an issue.

What this is, is yet another Leigh fan creating another stick to beat Toronto with. You’d have thought they’d have gotten over it by now.

You're joking, last season quite a few coaches complained about the flight from Manchester to Toulouse !!

I didn’t see/read any complaints from coaches.

But anyway, that’s not what I asked.

Sad to say that this gives the Wolfpack an advantage over their opponents for their games in Toronto and shouldn't be permitted.

Regardless of their being no significant jet lag, the sheer act of travelling is tiring and their 11 opponents in Toronto will all have arrived a day or so before KO whilst Toronto's "away" games will see them be none the worse for travelling.....it is an unfair advantage and should be stopped now.

Ok. I was the Leigh fan starting the thread. As it was an unusual move, I thought maybe it might have been of interest to fans of other clubs - even SL ones.

Despite my flagrant bias, and being half blinded by my red & white specs, (and the other half by my oversized flat cap) I did suggest that it may not work well for Toronto - check the original post.

I know some Leigh fans may be bitter, twisted and biased - although there is a rumour that some fans of other clubs are similarly afflicted

- but we are entitled to hold opinions about matters relating to RL. I know our ridiculously short tenure in SL, which I am on record as stating was fully deserved, doesn't qualify us to hold any opinions, but if you don't like them, you can always ignore them, rather than repeatedly display your contempt for all things Leigh-related.

I await the comments from 'qualified' contributors (i.e. from SL teams) when Toronto attempt something similar next season.

Please can you refer us to any scientific studies carried out on the effects of an 8-hour flight and recovery time vs other travel times and methods?

Didn’t teams travel two days beforehand in 2017, with a captains run the day before?

And are there any other scientific studies that categorically state that travelling 3, 500 miles [udo not [/uaffect people, though? (coming from someone who feels jet-lagged after a train journey from London to the North West!

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There’s already a 4-page thread on the Leigh board with your fellow Fans sticking the boot in. The Toronto obsession from Leigh fans (not you in particular) is tiresome now.

Everyone is of course entitled to an opinion, and to be challenged on it too. My post was more aimed at Maurice to be honest, I see he’s scarpered back to the safety of the Leigh board to have a moan.

I’m sure there’ll be a logical reason behind the fixtures, like work being carried out at their stadium.

That would be a weird study.

By the way Alan, I’m not inferring that air travel (or any travel) isn’t tiring, I’m questioning Call Me God’s theory that this tiredness can carry on for two days after an 8hr flight, and therefore give sides a disadvantage.

The reason were playing 11 away is because the stadium is city owned and has a dome over the pitch, not the stands, during the winter to allow for soccer and other community sports to be played in the winter. This comes off late April at which point the Wolfpack can start using it. Last year the home opener was May 6th, 2018 we are playing over a week earlier. The upgrades are only potentially affecting the first few home games if they aren’t competed on time, a city run project usually is late, and that’s why we have notified some of the first clubs to play in Canada not to book their trips yet.

Perez has mentioned in a few interviews that we won’t be looking at any major stadium upgrades or relocations until we get to SL (cough 2019 cough). Without a stadium that has a roof we will still be in the predicament of not being able to play until late April due to the weather which is why i believe we will play a few home games in our Manchester base to try and grow the brand in the UK as well as to allow for a more even playing field. Any new NA teams will be in the same situation as Montreal, NY and Boston have similar weather if not worse (Montreal) so playing “local” away games won’t be an option in the future unless again teams have a closed roof stadiums.

This might give us a bit of an advantage but the whole Wolfpack concept is meant for SL and FT teams that can come over a few days early to acclimatize. Travel is a given in NA sports so that’s why no one here is fazed by this. Ii do think that 11 straight games can negatively affect the players as they will miss their family, not everyone can come down for the whole summer due to work or other obligations, and the crowds might be affected by not having a chance to miss the game.

I can’t wait for next season to start and truly believe that the Championship will be the league to watch next year!

Ok DGM - points accepted.

If there had been any agenda to get Toronto into SL, they certainly wouldn't have had to start life in Championship 1!

I don't know whether this will be an advantage or not to Toronto - they could lose 5/6 of their opening eleven away games, and then face a steep climb to make the 8's. I raised it as a point of interest - I certainly haven't seen anything like this before.

Even our pitch maintenance 'only' has us scheduled to play five consecutive away games in 'Summer'. (including visits to Toulouse and Toronto inside 14 days - almost as taxing as visits to Dewsbury & Batley in a similar time frame!

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YOUR obsession with Leigh Centurions is very boring also.....pot/kettle/black/nob.

The accepted jet lag equation is one day recovery per hour time difference, with East to wet recovery being harder. So 4 days after arrival you will be at your best either side, but that ain't an advantage. Super 8's stats say your chance of victory playing opposition who have travelled through time zones is 20% greater, but what do they know.
Ignoring the Hull troll, I am 100% behind TW playing SL asap by either winning a place or by franchise but integrity must be paramount

I knew it wouldn’t be long before the village idiot turned up. Follows me around like a lost puppy.

Be interesting how your fan base handles this season,particularly those that arent season ticket holders.
11games is a lot to pay out for one after the other

Is anyone who disagrees with you a troll Maurice?

Thanks for the very scientific theory on jet lag.

And how does your 20% figure differ to the greater chance of winning at home vs away? I’m sure there’s no correlation.

The stats were 20% greater based on the fact that home win percentage was higher in the first place, eg If 60% of fixtures were home wins it was 72%.

Debate is great, it's better when your choice of head is just the one

Do lost puppies actually follow people around ? Do you have proof darling....