This crops up every year and I would say it's pretty unlikely that they will open the second tier, purely because it's such short notice. They would have agreed the 32,000 capacity with the police and council months ago, not to mention having to get hold of extra staff with less than a week's notice.

How was it a poor attendance it was 85% full or were you hoping for 23000 in a 14000 capacity ground

Think before you touch the board in front of you

Disappionting that the top tier wont be open. This game could have come close to a sell out.

Well it doesnt hold 14,000 and even if it did it should have sold out.

Got mine a couple of weeks ago. After the positivity surrounding recent performances I would be amazed if it doesnt sell out.

As stated on the previous thread about this, the majority of empty seats were ones reserved by the RFL for sponsors who didn't bother to turn up.

Well, it does hold 14,000, was on live terrestrial tv and was a foregone cinclusion, so I think 12,000+ was a great crowd.

It was around 10,400 not 12,000+. Anything less then a total sell out was not great. Anyway thats in the past, hoping this sells out very quick. Is the second tier deffinately not being opened?

Just got 6 together in the east stand but took ages going through all the blocks to find them.

It would seem pretty close to being full already and if they dint do something to get that top tier opened they're dafter then I first feared.

If the 32,000 or so all sells out fairly early then they have to open the top tier. There is absolutely no point in booking a 40,000 seater stadium if you have no intention of opening a tier if it is needed and thus reducing it to 32,000. We sold out all of Elland Road in 2004 when we were battered by Australia and, especially after the last 2 performances and positivity around this current England team, there is no reason why it cant be done again. It really is simple, if we sell out 32,000 then open it, if we dont then dont.

So you know the cost implications and Health and Safety regulations do you? As usual,people talking with absolute no knowledge of the facts.

A small number of decent seats available on the LUFC website [url=http://www.lufc.talent-sport.co.uk/PagesPublic/ProductBrowse/standAndAreaSelection.aspx?stadium=ER&product=FNF11&campaign=&type=Hhere[/url

I don't think Leeds United have a valid safety certificate for the top tier, as the expense of getting it and opening the section would not be worthwhile for them over the course of the season, it wasn't open when they played Man Utd in the cup the other week.

Can't find 4 together. Which block did you find yours in?

Do you? If you do then please share them.

It was opened as recently as January of this year so I really cant see how it is that big a deal and I am sure that if we could sell it out then another 8,000 paying fans would easily cover that and more. It is quite simple though if, for whatever reason, then we cannot open the top tier and in effect only have a 32,000 seater stadium then the final should be played elsewhere from now on. England are on a roll and there is a real buzz around the national team that I havent seen for along time, not to have the opportunity to exploit that would be criminal.

Quote ="Asim"I don't think Leeds United have a valid safety certificate for the top tier, as the expense of getting it and opening the section would not be worthwhile for them over the course of the season, it wasn't open when they played Man Utd in the cup the other week.'" Drove past it on the 621 last week and the East Stand is still shrouded in construction covers which I presume is related to this redevelopment: www.thesquareball.net/what-ken-s ... d-special/ Would have thought it should be completed by now given they were talking about it in March. It appears Caddick is doing the work so I'm sure it wouldn't be over-running and is of the highest quality

Quote ="Asim"I don't think Leeds United have a valid safety certificate for the top tier, as the expense of getting it and opening the section would not be worthwhile for them over the course of the season, it wasn't open when they played Man Utd in the cup the other week.'" Drove past it on the 621 last week and the East Stand is still shrouded in construction covers which I presume is related to this redevelopment: www.thesquareball.net/what-ken-s ... d-special/ Would have thought it should be completed by now given they were talking about it in March. It appears Caddick is doing the work so I'm sure it wouldn't be over-running and is of the highest quality

If they are doing the top tier up theres nothing we can do about it. elland road is the only ground available really. man city have said they dont want any other sports on the ground and i dont reckon man utd would let rugby play on their ground in mid november.

maybe everton would have been an option as theyre skint. nowhere else big ebnough

Quote ="MjM"Drove past it on the 621 last week and the East Stand is still shrouded in construction covers which I presume is related to this redevelopment: www.thesquareball.net/what-ken-s ... d-special/ Would have thought it should be completed by now given they were talking about it in March. It appears Caddick is doing the work so I'm sure it wouldn't be over-running and is of the highest quality '" I just hope he's over-charging them for it! I didn't even realise it was being re-developed, I just thought they were leaving it closed as they have done for most of the last few seasons.

Quote ="MjM"Drove past it on the 621 last week and the East Stand is still shrouded in construction covers which I presume is related to this redevelopment: www.thesquareball.net/what-ken-s ... d-special/ Would have thought it should be completed by now given they were talking about it in March. It appears Caddick is doing the work so I'm sure it wouldn't be over-running and is of the highest quality '" I just hope he's over-charging them for it! I didn't even realise it was being re-developed, I just thought they were leaving it closed as they have done for most of the last few seasons.

Hillsborough capacity is just shy of 40k (slightly bigger than elland road), I bet Milan Mandaric wouldn't say no to extra cash.

to be fair to the RFL, they always have to consider the prospect of a Aus-NZ final, which even Elland Road's reduced 32K capacity woulden't have been needed for.

yes I'd like to see England-Aus be able to have the biggest capacity possible, but don't forget this ground was booked months ago.

Which makes you ask the question why have we taken the game there in the first place!

A sh*tehole we cant even use all of! I hope us using the city of Manchester stadium for Magic is a sign of things to come.

Hold on im on leeds utds website www.lufc.talent-sport.co.uk/Page ... gn=&type=H and they are selling certain areas of the 2nd tier for a game against barnsley!

Hold on im on leeds utds website www.lufc.talent-sport.co.uk/Page ... gn=&type=H and they are selling certain areas of the 2nd tier for a game against barnsley!

Quote ="Asim"I don't think Leeds United have a valid safety certificate for the top tier, as the expense of getting it and opening the section would not be worthwhile for them over the course of the season, it wasn't open when they played Man Utd in the cup the other week.'" www.leedsunited.com/news/2011090 ... 85_2439739 It was open and currently there is about 100 season ticket holders up there, looks daft on a match day though.

Quote ="Asim"I don't think Leeds United have a valid safety certificate for the top tier, as the expense of getting it and opening the section would not be worthwhile for them over the course of the season, it wasn't open when they played Man Utd in the cup the other week.'" www.leedsunited.com/news/2011090 ... 85_2439739 It was open and currently there is about 100 season ticket holders up there, looks daft on a match day though.

I hope they open the top tier otherwise we have undersold ourselves. Tried looking at tickets lats night but couldn't get on the website due to high demand.

I really wuld try and get Manchester City's ground in the future. Hull's pitch was in great nick last night, so if a Cahmpionship club can cope with an RL match in it, surely a club with a billionaire owner, where the average player eanrs 200k a week, can afford to have one RL match in November.

But i really hope we get the top tier open.

So, has no one else notice this happen with the Grand Final then; the top tier being closed for sale until the week before the match?

Instead of getting all vitriolic, why don't we wait and see what happens?