Glad to have you posting, you're a real breath of fresh air on the VT. We really lack threads slagging players off, particularly Ryan Bailey, who gets away with far too much unchallenged IMO.

Yes, yes I do, and your comments below show this, there's no examples here of you understanding the other side of the coin.


Cited 6 times in one year for the same offence last time I checked, I reckon that counts as constant.



Srsly? We're going to pretend nothing happened, that he didnt stand waving his arms up at the Saints Supporters and then goading the saints players. Pal I was there, and know a few of the coaching staff at Leeds and they know what happened too.



Actually I think they do, I don't for one second think Bailey is the worst at this, Westwood, Tomkins (when in league) Cockayne and quite a few others are guilty of being ar*es on the pitch.



It's not hate, its an opinion, in my opinion he needs to get rid of this part from his game. He's a big lad, whether he feels he has something to prove, or is just a little too OTT at times I dunno. I just believe he needs to concentrate on his game and he'll be better for it. As for Radford I think he was an as*h*le for hitting him on the ground, you want a dustup then wait for the lad to get up, nothing worse then getting decked when you cant defend yourself.

Playing for England and acting like he can will not help us. Neither did I think Joel Tomkins, often giving away silly penalties would help us win either.

Which year? How many times was he actually charged? And no, 6 times in one particular year (if that is even the case - and he was charged in every case) does not fit the definition of the word "constant" especially considering Bailey has played first team since 2003.

I apologise. I can't imagine why I interpreted.....

"Bailey pushes the referee, gives him verbals and get suspended for it. I brought up the guy has past for acting like this and I don't understand how he is in the England squad?"

as you claiming Bailey had pushed a referee before.

If I were unkind I'd say it was a perfect example of people making things up about Bailey and then back tracking when the facts don't suit their agenda.

But I'll accept that when you said he "has past for acting like this" you didn't actually mean "he has past for acting like this" so we can move on.

I think you will find the whole point is people are not upset about Westwood. Certainly not to the extent that they are about Bailey.

Hence the questions about how proportionate the disgust many feel about Bailey is towards his actions. IMO, and in the opinion of many other rational individuals, the response is wholly disproportionate and completely OTT.

So we wonder why this particular prop provokes such a reaction in fans compared to other props.

It's not working fella, nobody is going for the racism, Bailey's along with cockayne's choice of how they conduct themselves winds people up, one is black the other is white, in neither instance does it make any difference.

Is there a prize for outing this 4thchoicecentre numpty as the previously unlamented Fishta?

And you just jumped the shark.

The one incident that sums Bailey up to me is at the end of the 2010 CC Final. Wire had won the game, Chris Riley took the ball into what was going to be the last tackle and Bailey slams him in the back with his elbow while Riley is on the ground. The guy is a jerk and I wouldn't want him in my team (club or national).

The difference between the likes of Bailey and Morley is that Morley can back it up by being a good player. Bailey is decent at best and that's why he's disliked, you know when the going gets tough he's going to be MIA.

Bailey did a similar "bullyboy" thing with our young player Makinson in the Grand Final, AFTER THE FINAL WHISTLE was blown , that was why Wilkin complained about it, some Leeds players had to drag Bailey away back into the celebrations.
It is also not a rumour that Bailey,s "bullyboy" occurrence happened to one of the Wigan u/20's players at the challenge cup final last year.

Like posters have already mentioned he won't go "toe for toe" ONE on ONE against one of his fellow props, I think Bailey ban has been
lllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnggggggg overdue.

Of course you miss the fact that Bailey has played roughly twice as many matches as J.Thomkins...meaning Thomkins by your measure was "pulled" twice as often as Bailey (despite playing a significant number of games at centre)

Over the last few years he has consistently shown himself to be a thug on the field, i cannot believe that he is still in the Leeds and England squads...the man is a disgrace to the Game of RL

Love how you've backed up your rational opinion with concrete examples

You're right its not a rumour; it's a slanderous comment that was hastily deleted from twitter by the foolish Wigan U20 player that posted it.

Unbelievable bulls*it on here from Bailey haters. I'm beginning to suspect G1 may well have a point.

I suppose the blinkered minority would yes see it as unbelievable.

rubbish. never happened. it was right in front of me and i've watched it again on dvd. just didn't happen

Maybe it because you could possibly be one of the blinkered minority with eyes wide shut.

Nope. Even mr excuse Wilkins withdrew it later on. Watch the DVD. Clear as day

Okay I'm not a Hull fan, but I respect Radford big-style for standing up to the t**t, thats one guy Bailey wouldnt face up to, inc the charity boxing match proposal.

Haven't you got some needlework to be getting on with ?

I've got to ask, when there is clear evidence available on video, which shows Radford launching his attack on a prone Bailey, why do muppets like you continually regurgitate this sort of crap?

(and in keeping with the AUP...no offence intended you understand)

Sadly it appears, on the evidence of the Hull FC game at Headingley last season, that Mr Radford failed (spectacularly) to 'stand up to the ***'. And that is supposedly his job.

That's quite a compliment - although how did you find out? Are you a peeping tom?