This isn’t slagging anyone off it’s based on facts that we all know about and every one of us know how it’s affecting us and know several others who aren’t going because of the price of admission.

Falling attendances are just one part the net that the clubs are caught in but lowering the price doesn’t guarantee more will come in sufficient numbers either to make up the difference or increase the amount.

Admission prices aren’t the only reason for people not coming as for everyone of the fans that I know are being put off for that I know quadruple the amount who simply have no interest in rugby league and don’t even watch it on tv for free.

I think rugby league as a whole needs an overhaul on and off the pitch , it’s bigger than just us .

If we survive ironically I will buy a season ticket next year but I do think mini season tickets would help , modern day life is very busy balancing work family and everything else is harder than ever a mini season ticket would give the club and the fans more flexibility . Obviously certain games are more appealing than others , so perhaps a stamp of attend five games get one half price or a tiered pricing structure on the quality of the game . It’s disappointing that the rugby and football clubs don’t see eye to eye but they should be working together for example, a footy season ticket holder should get discounted prices to attend the rugby and vice a versa , I know regardless of my disinterest in footy I would be tempted to attend a game on a week night at a discounted price. The whole town should be working together with businesses and sponsors , discounted food n drinks , gym memberships , cinema discounts, travel lodge/hotel discounts, bowling, golf etc etc , these are modern times and there are more choices of entertainment than ever time to think out of the box , it’s not the 80s anymore time to think out of the box.

Listen up makes some very valid points, the ‘rot’ started way back in the 80’s when Sundays became another working day, for myself at that time I had to work on a Sunday this stopped me from attending many games, maybe you could blame the government of the day for allowing Sunday trading!
Whilst I am sure were Fax more successful additional local sponsors would see it as a marketing opportunity, however with very little outside exposure in media terms and companies having to carefully consider where to advertise Rugby league comes way down the list.
I am not an avid Halifax Courier reader, however the coverage of any sport bar association football is pathetic. It is not as though the football is tearing up a pathway to the Premier League.
Another point that has been made over and over, why can’t both Football and Rugby form a partnership?, one reason from reports I read and read between the lines so to speak, whilst there are bigoted board directors of one or other of the clubs(allegedly) this will never happen.
Again I am not privy to how the Council run the Shay or the terms of the contract signed, but not having a profit share from bar takings?, and dining packages circa £50 a pop, where do the contractors think ordinary people have that spare change in this day and age?
I do not claim to have the answers but as my dear mum used to say to me and my siblings, if I knocked your heads together would it put some sense into them, take note all 3 protagonists ( football,rugby,council) because if professional sport dies in Halifax so does a lot of free advertising as little as it may be in the media, unless the Piece Hall is going to be the saviour and future of Halifax.
You may and will be correct in saying, “ you left here, why do you care?” Yes I did but I am a proud Halifaxian and would love to shove down other expats throats that we have a town to be proud of, especially a rugby league team.
End of sermon

As I've said before There isn't an answer, it's all too deep rooted and they can't get out of it.

Well, Faxcar, your first four mentioned points are absolutely valid complaints/reasons. Anyone thinking or believing otherwise is deluded. Also it would be helpful if the hotels weren't full of illegals. If we could get in one we might just be able to add up correctly and plant the seeds to grow a proper forest where all the insects have an even chance of growing up. Finally, the one point that i hear more than anything else including cost/leaving Thrum Hall/playing Sundays in't summer is lack of P&R. Every conversation on RL i have nowadays seems to end up with 'what's the point'? That is something I find very hard to argue against.

Of course there's an answer. There's a solution to every problem.

Well what is it then that has any chance of all the parties involved agreeing to and will actually be implemented?

Slightly off topic but Ive been thinking more about ticket pricing because I don't normally take much notice but I have been seeing more adverts for this Sundays game which is great but I just wonder the clubs thinking around the young adult pricing and age range. I think something needs to be done in this area as I think we would all agree money is getting tighter and tighter but I just don't get the age range and the thinking behind it.

A lot of young ones now are in education till at least 18 so the age range of 16-18 are quite unlikely to be able to afford the prices that the club charge at the moment and I don't know if this is just me but it seems to be reflected in the demographic on the terraces almost as though there is a whole generation of people missing as the club has done a lot of work in the community which is fantastic and every week you see the young kids around the stadium but then it just seems to be a lot of the older generations after that. Maybe a re-think of the pricing and age ranges for the young adult tickets are needed.

Young people especially children with an adult should be free, others from 16-18 should be something like £5.

PS: and anyone on here with a user name from G to T should be charged double.

There's been quite a few suggestions on here, and although not ideal and quite painful, are probably better than the status quo. Just because you don't agree with the ideas it doesn't mean nothing can be done.

The question was, what was the chances of all the parties involved agreeing to any of the ideas on here or anywhere else and implementing them?

It’s not about what I think seeing because I’m not one of the players who have to agree.

You pointed out that Bradford and Fev blocked a motion for a TV deal. It's ridiculous that just a couple of clubs can block stuff. The clubs HAVE to get together and a minority shouldn't be allowed to veto motions. Otherwise all clubs will continue to lose circa £200k a year and we all know where that'll eventually end up.

I don't think the mooted tv deal was worth owt like £200,000 a year for championship clubs.

I wasn't suggesting a TV deal would cover losses. My point was getting all the clubs together to make fundamental changes, the TV deal just being an example of the tail wagging the dog.

You can’t solve a problem, but you can solve a negative situation

It was more than just Bulls and Rovers.

Against were Bradford, Batley, Dewsbury, Doncaster, Featherstone, Wakefield and Widnes.

For were Swinton, Halifax, York, Barrow, Sheffield and Toulouse.

Didn't vote. Whitehaven.

The RFL didn't have to accept the vote and could have forced it through but decided to do nothing.

That apart it's just an example of the difficulties of getting anyone to agree on anything and getting it implemented.

Fair enough,majority against...think it was a paltry figure on offer anyway...

I see London's sugar daddy, David Hughes, has had enough and wants to sell the club. Probably explains why their 2023 accounts still haven't been filed, being nearly a month overdue. So I'll give you London's 2022 results - an eye watering £27.3 million net liabilities and a £1.5 million loss.

So I've no idea how much Hughes is expecting to get from the "sale". He'd struggle to give it away IMO.

Therefore, in summary, assuming London's financial position didn't improve in 2023, they take the prize for being the most heavily in debt at £27.3 million, overtaking Huddersfield's £15.7 million with Wigan in 3rd at £10.5 million. Leeds are the richest with net assets of £11.4 million but that includes their ground at almost £9 million. likewise Cas in 2nd with net assets of £4.1 million which includes the ground of £8.2 million and Saints in 3rd with net assets of £2.2 million but including a ridiculously valued lease of £31.7 million.

Overall a right mess. Now I know why they used to call the promotion decider "the million pound game", because that's how much you would expect to lose each year in Super League.

I’ve often said without a sugar daddy we’ve no chance but after looking at some of the accounts of those with them maybe it’s time for the entire game to get back to reality and all start drinking tea without.

It only takes Sky to walk away and those at the top have the furthest to fall.

Exactly. The top division in sport is supposed to be a great money earner, but it costs millions of sugar daddy money to merely survive in Super League. What a joke, eh?

Whitehaven 2023 accounts recently in. They lost £20k and had net liabilities of £446k.

Doncaster's 2023 accounts filed. They're the most insolvent Championship club so far, with net liabilities of £986k having lost £360k in the year.

Hanson plywood seem to have some brass running through their business, Tony, do your thing , lol

They certainly do! Their last accounts showed profits of over £3 million and had net assets of £28 million. Would obviously be nice to see some of that go our way in terms of sponsorship!

Midlands Hurricanes are quietly building. They seem to have a lease on a decent stadium and their owner is also the owner of Big Red Construction. Plenty of resources there.