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| Have both, why not, C1's run on a shoestring budget anyway.
Competition for players is there but other than that...give it a whirl i'd say.
The derby would certainly be...interesting and I reckon it'd get some attention
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| Hmmmmm no interest down here....
Moss got the club as I understand it with all debts written off.
A certain popular business consortium down here offered to take on the Crusaders if the debts were written off, but for SOME reason it didn't happen.
Yeah, THAT'S why Wrexham got the Crusaders. No interest down here.
Okay then, if you like!
F**k 'em
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| Quote ="Peckerwood"So am I the only one who sees that a move up north can be a positive move?
North Wales is an untapped area in terms of full-time professional sports teams. Wrexham FC average 3,500 (2008-9) in the Blue Square Prem while Colwyn Bay don't get many supporters in the Unibond League.
In terms of RU, the Scarlets have played matches at the Racecourse Ground but not on a regualr basis. WRU have cited the area as a 'development region' but as of yet nothing I'm aware of has come about it. Its a perfect opportunity for RL to get it's foot in the door as early as possible.'"
Rubbish... WRU have worked hard up in north wales. They just havent the players to compete. They have fast tracked teams to Division 2 but the get relegated.
WRU have just started to set up a new Region at colwyn bay called gogledd cymru and shall play in the Welsh Premiership , the team shall also be bolstered by Canadian international / up and comin players.
ALso £6million are being spent on the ground at colwyn bay and training facilities
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| Dico, I'd LOVE to give it a whirl and have both down here (well OUR one anyway - no interest in Neath).
Unfortunately, it seems that only the RFL's preferred Neath option is being talked on in the media, suggesting there is only one spot on offer and that the decision has laready been made.
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| Quote ="Grendel"Hmmmmm no interest down here....
Moss got the club as I understand it with all debts written off.
A certain popular business consortium down here offered to take on the Crusaders if the debts were written off, but for SOME reason it didn't happen.
Yeah, THAT'S why Wrexham got the Crusaders. No interest down here.
Okay then, if you like!
F**k 'em'"
Sorry grendel, I know you're welsh and everything but... I haven't got a clue what this lot means.
Could we have it in English please?
(serious I dont get what you mean in this post)
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| Quote ="Dico"The Neath option reeks of CC round 2 imo.
Grendel, I don't see why you've turned against the Crusaders so quickly, at the end of the day they had to go, Samuels sold them out and if the interest isn't down your way then... they're playign games in south wales anyway, just a much higher percentage in wrexham. tbh for games against wire, wigan, saints, salford it makes most sense'"
If Cru move to north wales.
I will be done with them.
Most fans feel that way down here.
All the union fans are saying i told u so this and that.
Union has won again. And i feel RL may never recover down here if they go now.>!
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| But what option do they have?
They cant take those losses without a backer
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| Quote ="Dico"But what option do they have?
They cant take those losses without a backer'"
They should go bust and RFL should allow the new Bridgend Bid in SL or championship.
Or transfer it over/ merge like the rumours with widnes and RFL clear there debt if there seriuos about league in south wales.
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| Quote ="garethtaylor15"They should go bust and RFL should allow the new Bridgend Bid in SL or championship.
Or transfer it over/ merge like the rumours with widnes and RFL clear there debt if there seriuos about league in south wales.'"
Thats what I said the other day but I think there's implications with your license place if this happens. Its the best idea allround though, would get rid of samuels' debt
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| Dico, what I mean is that there WAS interest down here from a business consortium, rather than the wealthy oligarch benefactor from Wrexham, asking, as far as I'm aware, the same terms as Moss, yet Mr Moneybags gets the nod.
I don't think Moss has bought in taking on the rumoured £1m debt.
Quite frankly I really don't care what Wrexham does now. I'm just hoping for Bridgend in CC1.
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| Quote ="Dico"Thats what I said the other day but I think there's implications with your license place if this happens. Its the best idea allround though, would get rid of samuels' debt'"
well it all comes down to how much the RFL wont a welsh team doesnt it.?
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"It could be because Wakefield still own their own stadium and won't be relocating 130 miles away from Wakefield and have a competitive squad.'" No, they just owe the Tax man a huge amount of money with not a lot of time to pay it
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| If there are two bids, I don't see why there can only be one club entered. If they are both good enough then they should both be in. It keeps the league even as well which is a huge bonus.
If they're looking at bringing Crusaders back to South Wales at a later date, then they are stupid. People are already p*ssed off with them. Very few will want to support them in the future. There are too many barriers. Fresh start for Bridgend is needed, and I fear that if they don't get a CC1 side then that's another generation of fans not wanting anything to do with RL.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"If there are two bids, I don't see why there can only be one club entered. If they are both good enough then they should both be in. It keeps the league even as well which is a huge bonus.
If they're looking at bringing Crusaders back to South Wales at a later date, then they are stupid. People are already p*ssed off with them. Very few will want to support them in the future. There are too many barriers. Fresh start for Bridgend is needed, and I fear that if they don't get a CC1 side then that's another generation of fans not wanting anything to do with RL.'"
100% correct.!
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"No, they just owe the Tax man a huge amount of money with not a lot of time to pay it'"
They'll find the money.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"If there are two bids, I don't see why there can only be one club entered. If they are both good enough then they should both be in. It keeps the league even as well which is a huge bonus.
If they're looking at bringing Crusaders back to South Wales at a later date, then they are stupid. People are already p*ssed off with them. Very few will want to support them in the future. There are too many barriers. Fresh start for Bridgend is needed, and I fear that if they don't get a CC1 side then that's another generation of fans not wanting anything to do with RL.'"
Pretty much what I just posted on the other thread , the RFL seem to see clubs like a McDonalds type franchise that they can move about at will and it will still succeed
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"They'll find the money.'" and Crusaders will find a way. Oh they already did
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| ss CC crusaders found another backer to save them just like widnes did.
hooray, that means CC are a heartland team now
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| Quote ="dally messenger"ss CC crusaders found another backer to save them just like widnes did.
hooray, that means CC are a heartland team now'"
No , they are an expansion club
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| Quote ="Starbug"No , they are an expansion club'" until they get a modicum of success, then they will be and always will have been a heartland team
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| Quote ="Starbug"No , they are an expansion club'"
see why those definitions were silly to begin with?
great day for RL the club continuing like this
im overjoyed
im sure you will extend your best wishes to the club since you want whats best for RL
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| Quote ="Starbug"Pretty much what I just posted on the other thread , the RFL seem to see clubs like a McDonalds type franchise that they can move about at will and it will still succeed'"
It's sad isn't it. There are actually studies on supporter behaviour and how it differs from consumer behaviour they can go look at. There are also studies at how supporter behaviour differs from participation behaviour.
The problem is there is no logic behind their decisions. No consistency. And definitely no honesty. I have always held the belief that if you truly believe that what you're doing is the right thing then you'll be as open as possible.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"until they get a modicum of success, then they will be and always will have been a heartland team'"
not bad
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| Quote ="dally messenger"see why those definitions were silly to begin with?
great day for RL the club continuing like this
im overjoyed
im sure you will extend your best wishes to the club since you want whats best for RL[/quote
Like this you mean ?
Quote Got to say I agree with you on this , we are not talking about a McDonalds here , Sports fans dont just jump from team to team , as far as I am concerned if the Crusaders move to Wrexham , they should then stay there , end of
If I'd have been looking to expand the game then North Wales would have been a prime spot to look at , although I'd have looked at a smaller ground and a Championship 1 club
But as it stands now if the crusaders are to be in Wrexham then Wrexham has to succeed , it cannot just be moved on again , what would be the point , 2/3 years down the line a couple of thousand fans in north wales lose their club and feel like the Celtic fans do now ?
As for the possible South Wales club , in a similar vien , I'm sure that local rivalries might dissuade some existing Celtic fans from following a club in Neath ,
When will they learn you cannot play with people emotions , as that is what sport is all about '" '"
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| so you are happy for them, good!
im very happy with this outcome. it wasnt looking good.
nice to see other parties are interested in having a SL club in wales.
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