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| We all have our idiots ours have been running riot for weeks! Hopefully now the glory supporters will jump off the bandwagon and us loyal sensible supporters won't get tarred with the same brush! Looking forward to next year already we will be back bigger and better
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| Let's deal with the cup run first
They beat an injury ravaged Salford who lost Dobson and Sau in the first ten minutes of the game. Even then Salford had the game in the bag until BJB gifted Leigh the winning try.
They beat possibly the worst Wakefield team I've ever watched who at the time were in their worst form of the season and also beset by injuries to key players.
They ran Warrington close but we've learned since then that Warrington are imploding this season and are nowhere near their best.
I said before a ball was kicked at the beginning of the season that no Championship club would get promoted unless one of the SL clubs did a London and completely fell apart. Wakefield have done their best to fill that London role but still look too strong for the Championship clubs with only a sublime Bradford performance in the MPG offering any chance of an upset.
Short of a Perfect Storm to create a shock, Promotion via the M8s will be a two, three or even four year learning and strengthening curve for the Championship clubs.
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| Sadly it will have been deemed a failure and we'll see yet another change of format before then.
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| Part of the problem for Leigh is the unadulterated -fest by several of the Sky pundits and some pretend journo's on social media; couple that with the unfortunate attitude of some of their more vocal supporters (a small but loud minority) and their chippy coach and Chairman, and you have a perfect storm - every time they slip up, schadenfreude kicks in and people take pleasure in it. That's the way the world works these days - build something up, and you ask for it to be knocked down; I gather the modern parlance is 'haters gonna hate?'
For my part, I never bought the outpourings of orgasmic joy at their revolutionary, never seen before approach to the game; they play a fast, unstructured and at times grubby game that has been very successful against part-time opposition - it was never going to work against decent SL teams who play to a much more rigid, percentage structure and can shrug off the niggle and wind-up tactics, contain them and wear them down. A more experienced coach would have worked that out, but it seems that Paul Rowley believed his own hype and didn't change his approach for a better quality of opposition. I guess they'll make some changes in the off-season and good luck to them - if they can avoid losing their best players to SL teams, they'll be well-placed to continue building.
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| Quote we will be back bigger and better'"
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| Hee hee you lot really are worried about us and our Derek ,keep going Derek your scaring the poop out of them.
Let's look what's he achieved over the last two season built our fan base up from 1300 to 4000 in the lower division may I add with no away support apart from Bradford who fans have loyally stuck with them even though they go bankrupt every season and have a coach they have dispited all season.
Brought in better quality players this season with more promised in the next month.
A style of play that got fans and press excited,darlings of the BBC with our cup run and massive media exposure record sponsorship into the club.
Now all our Derek wants is Leigh to have the same salary cap as our super league competitors what's wrong with that he wants to fund it he can afford and we pull in more crowds than some of the super league clubs so why can't he spend the same cap the only extra funding they get is the sky money.
It's been stated on here many times that a legal challenge in court would win as its a restriction of trade pure and simple its like saying to asda you can only spend 1 million on advertising but tesco can spend 1.8 million.
So keep up your hating were loving it,we will be back bigger and better next year the club learned a lot from these playoffs found were we need to strengthen and will.
Our Derek as plenty of bottles of water left
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| Yeah we're all worried about Leigh. No, really.
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| Quote ="bren2k"........A more experienced coach would have worked that out, but it seems that Paul Rowley believed his own hype and didn't change his approach for a better quality of opposition. ......'"
Same as a few years ago when they were 'merely' one of the better teams in the Championship. Many of their fans were calling for his head then because he couldn't change tactics when things weren't working and they were getting regularly outsmarted in the play off games.
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"
It's been stated on here many times that a legal challenge in court would win as its a restriction of trade pure and simple its like saying to asda you can only spend 1 million on advertising but tesco can spend 1.8 million.
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Their competition, their rules. Any threat to take it to court would simply result in a quiet word reminding them of that probably along with a threat of their own not allowing Leigh to play in their competition.
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Hee hee you lot really are worried about us and our Derek ,keep going Derek your scaring the poop out of them.'"
Derek is a petulant child who has spat his dummy out. It happens when you start to believe your own press before coming down with a thud!
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Let's look what's he achieved over the last two season built our fan base up from 1300 to 4000 in the lower division may I add with no away support apart from Bradford who fans have loyally stuck with them even though they go bankrupt every season and have a coach they have dispited all season.'"
41,657 fans over 11 games is 3,787. Remove Bradford attendance as you requested and you get a figure of 3,402.......that's not 4000.....I hope you're not in charge of cap calculations at Leigh!
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Brought in better quality players this season with more promised in the next month.'"
Garreth Hock......and the others were that good they got beaten by London, Halifax and Bradford...and Fax and Bradford in IMPORTANT GAMES!
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"A style of play that got fans and press excited,'" and kept the disciplinary busy!
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"darlings of the BBC with our cup run and massive media exposure record sponsorship into the club.'"
lol...massive sponsorship. Landrover paying 20 million + is massive sponsorship.....as for darlings of the BBC, they like the romance of the cup that's all......most of the lovies wouldn't be able to pick leigh out on a map!
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Now all our Derek wants is Leigh to have the same salary cap as our super league competitors what's wrong with that he wants to fund it he can afford and we pull in more crowds than some of the super league clubs so why can't he spend the same cap the only extra funding they get is the sky money.'"
Because currently the rules say he can't. He voted for these rules by the way and was happy until the wheels fell off a fortnight ago.
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"It's been stated on here many times that a legal challenge in court would win as its a restriction of trade pure and simple its like saying to asda you can only spend 1 million on advertising but tesco can spend 1.8 million.'"
Tesco and Asda aren't signed up to be governed by a governing Body......Leigh are and therefore are subject to the rules of that body. If you don't like the rules, leave or change the governing body, but challenging them in a court of law will only make one profession wealthier.
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"So keep up your hating were loving it,we will be back bigger and better next year the club learned a lot from these playoffs found were we need to strengthen and will.'"
Pause, rewind, play again........Pause, Rewind, Play Again..Pause, rewind, play again........Pause, Rewind, Play Again..Pause, rewind, play again........Pause, Rewind, Play Again..Pause, rewind, play again........Pause, Rewind, Play Again..
Nobody hates Leigh by the way...just gobby little urchins who give it the "big I am" all season and then whine and bitch when it falls apart.....
See you at Ealing Trailfinders next season.......Headingley it ain't but we should be able to accommodate you all
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| Threatening to sue the competition over their operational rules is about as stupid as it ing gets.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Threatening to sue the competition over their operational rules is about as stupid as it loving gets.'"
Threatening to do something and actually doing it are entirely different, just bringing an issue to the table, and posturing, hes not the 1 st and wont be the last
Do I agree with him? , no
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| Quote ="Starbug"Unfair'"
If you'd seen the season Petone Panthers had just had you'd think he'd got of lightly!
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| Quote ="The Changing Man"If you'd seen the season Petone Panthers had just had you'd think he'd got of lightly!
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Still unfair, the club is unrecognisablecompared to 3/4 years ago, all because of 2 things, a structure that allows clubs to progress due to on field performance and somebody willing to invest under those circumstances
Many have suggested that Leigh would have been a ' shoe in ' for a licence, but that isnt true as the investement wouldnt have happened under that system
Many mistakes have been made, more will be made , most will be rectified
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| I'd like to make it clear that I don't like Leigh. I never have done. However, it cannot be denied that Beaumont has re-energised the club and the direction of travel is positive. For that he deserves some credit. I am not sure why some fans of opposition clubs get wound-up by some titbits he gave to the media.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Still unfair, the club is unrecognisablecompared to 3/4 years ago, all because of 2 things, a structure that allows clubs to progress due to on field performance and somebody willing to invest under those circumstances
Many have suggested that Leigh would have been a ' shoe in ' for a licence, but that isnt true as the investement wouldnt have happened under that system
Many mistakes have been made, more will be made , most will be rectified'"
I responded specifically and accurately to Jesus's comments....4k is not right as an average even with Bradford, regardless of if the style of play was nice your players were regularly the topic of the the disciplinary and the rules for salary cap and transfers as they are were agreed at the start...just because it didn't pan out for him is no defence for the dummy spitting of the Leigh collective!
As a whole I have little problem with Leigh or their charismatic owner who as you say, has revitalised the club. Unfortunately, his dummy spit combined with the small section of Leigh fans on-line who have claimed that the team would win everything have painted the club in a tarnished light over the last fortnight. Wins in the cup v average under performing sides and a close game against a Wire in decline resulted in countless threads on the VT and on those club boards where Leigh "fans" bragged and boasted of their rise from the ashes with a Grand Final appearance only a matter of a few years away......alas, its Ealing Trailfinders for another season at least.
As for spending to the cap in pursuit of promotion or to avoid relegation........isn't that what got us into the mess in the first place? Having money doesn't = staying up (London) or winning Grand Finals (Huddersfield/Wakefield)
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Hee hee you lot really are worried about us and our Derek ,keep going Derek your scaring the poop out of them.'"
Yep - I'm caking it.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Yep - I'm caking it.'"
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"I'd like to make it clear that I don't like Leigh. I never have done. However, it cannot be denied that Beaumont has re-energised the club and the direction of travel is positive. For that he deserves some credit. I am not sure why some fans of opposition clubs get wound-up by some titbits he gave to the media.'"
Just while you're here, how do you like them massive floodlights at the AJ Bell stadium?
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| Oh dear the changing man is not worried then set off with a fantastic rant and them stats as well Derek is playing them like a good un,so let's keep raising the bar Derek,all I know statto was a couple of years back we were bobin along on 300k a year which we usually lost to the tax man as we were always skint now we are pulling in over 4000 crowds unless I've imagined the last month or so please tottle off and check for me don't let facts get in your way,like I said record sponsorship for us more income through our BBC appearances tied into sponsorship deals and were still growing...... Keep hating its making us stronger.....P's our Derek as plenty of bottles of water left
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| Don't haters just hate the successful....why would anyone hate a tinpot club.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Just while you're here, how do you like them massive floodlights at the AJ Bell stadium?'"
What are you on about?
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| 14/15 pages is more than we have ever had before, I would deem that a success.
Halifax, Batley, Bradford whoever I don't particularly care who we start off playing next year the fact is if we perform well enough we are back playing SL clubs again in August 2016.
Good luck everybody See you all then.
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Oh dear the changing man is not worried then set off with a fantastic rant and them stats as well'"
stats generally deal with liars like you.....mine were spot on. You've not averaged 4k......
Quote ="jesus-is-coming"don't let facts get in your way'"
All I posted were facts......it's you that lives in the realms of fantasy.
Gotta love Leigh and their feeder club Salford fans giving it the big "I am" for the last 24 months and yet pretty much exactly where they were 24 months ago.
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