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| Quote ="Smiggs"Just out of interest what would you like them to do?'"
We could send him back to Rovers. Although that might breach some cruel and unusual punishment laws.
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"Not quite sure what I've done to make it something it isn't ? I simply asked if the poster thought it was ok to abuse Women, to which the poster added he wouldn't be overly bothered if it was members of his female family, I'm a little shocked I must admit.
I have no interest in it being Albert Kelly the rugby player just the fact that a man is seen abusing a female. TBH he could have been most places in the UK and nobody would have know him from Adam.
Just for clarity I'm sure there are mitigating circumstances like why an employee is filming him I don't know but I'm not ok with blokes abusing women and I'm glad to see your not also.'"
I don't think anyone has anything but condemnation for Kelly's actions.
Stating "the wife / daughter" scenario is making it something its not. As mentioned, it didnt seem to bother the lad shaking salt on his chips.
Its does appear to be a thing of obsession though. For Example, The Reason has deemed it reasonable to plagiarise others posts, post links to newspapers and even post up an article from when Martin Gleeson was banned for a drug related issue in 2011. Now thats a strange reaction!
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| This is exactly why the NRL introduced an integrity unit.
What the video shows is a player calling a woman a slut, a whore and making threats to assault her.
Of course, supporters of the club the player represents immediately look for other angles, the most ridiculous one being that it shouldn’t have been filmed.
I’m afraid there is one person responsible and accountable for his behaviour and that is Albert Kelly. If he doesn’t do it, it doesn’t get filmed. It’s really that simple. Next, we’ll be claiming we shouldn’t put people in prison because they have been filmed committing a crime on CCTV. He’s a professional sportsman, in public, making an absolute tool of himself. Of course someone’s going to film him. It’s hardly an invasion of his privacy, is it? Perhaps if he wasn’t behaving in such a foul and abusive manner, whoever has decided to film him wouldn’t have done so.
I’m afraid he only has himself to blame. Going around calling women sluts, whores and threatening to assault them
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I don't think anyone has anything but condemnation for Kelly's actions.
Stating "the wife / daughter" scenario is making it something its not. As mentioned, it didnt seem to bother the lad shaking salt on his chips.'"
I'm not making it something it's not " I have no interest in Kelly the rugby player" I was simply asking the person a question would he like the same done to his close ones he answered he wasn't overly bothered so whilst I'm astounded with his response, thats where it ends with him and me we think very differently.
As for the lad shaking salt on his chips maybe he thinks abusing women is ok too ? or is equally as vexed as Kelly and has no idea whats going on.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"This is exactly why the NRL introduced an integrity unit.
What the video shows is a player calling a woman a slut, a whore and making threats to assault her.
Of course, supporters of the club the player represents immediately look for other angles, the most ridiculous one being that it shouldn’t have been filmed.
I’m afraid there is one person responsible and accountable for his behaviour and that is Albert Kelly. If he doesn’t do it, it doesn’t get filmed. It’s really that simple. Next, we’ll be claiming we shouldn’t put people in prison because they have been filmed committing a crime on CCTV. He’s a professional sportsman, in public, making an absolute tool of himself. Of course someone’s going to film him. It’s hardly an invasion of his privacy, is it? Perhaps if he wasn’t behaving in such a foul and abusive manner, whoever has decided to film him wouldn’t have done so.
I’m afraid he only has himself to blame. Going around calling women sluts, whores and threatening to assault them'"
This, though you'll find that most supporters on the Hull forum are far from looking for other angles. Plenty, including myself have said he should be cut loose. There really isn't an excuse for it. Whether the woman in the video made comments before the filming starts or not, you just don't say stuff like that. I despair for some people sometimes.
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| I am sick and tired of this controversy over a non-event. Mr Albert Kelly was inebriated and said some things that he probably now regrets. He can be asked to apologise to the McDonalds female worker and thereby end the controversy right here and now. We cannot end the man's playing career -- by sending him to silly Salford or lowly Leigh -- for such a minor off-field infringement.
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| What a nasty piece of work - I hope she gobbed in his McFlurry.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I am sick and tired of this controversy over a non-event. Mr Albert Kelly was inebriated and said some things that he probably now regrets. He can be asked to apologise to the McDonalds female worker and thereby end the controversy right here and now. We cannot end the man's playing career -- by sending him to silly Salford or lowly Leigh -- for such a minor off-field infringement.'"
Yet again you have to bring Leigh and Salford into your posts in a derogatory way.
You really need to grow up.
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"I'm not making it something it's not " I have no interest in Kelly the rugby player" I was simply asking the person a question would he like the same done to his close ones he answered he wasn't overly bothered so whilst I'm astounded with his response, thats where it ends with him and me we think very differently.
As for the lad shaking salt on his chips maybe he thinks abusing women is ok too ? or is equally as vexed as Kelly and has no idea whats going on.'"
If a drunk who I had never met before and I could barely understand called a female family member a slut I wouldn't be pleased by it. But I wouldn't be looking for a fight either. Ignore him, tell him to go away, whatever. It's really nothing to get worked up about. We would probably laugh about it later. You may act differently. That's up to you. I'm just telling you I wouldn't be that bothered.
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| Just to put everyone’s mind at ease, especially The Reason (that’s their current user name, they have had many.....) who has been particularly affected by this, Hull FC have been quoted on Radio Humberside that they will be investigating this situation and dealing with it internally and will not make any further comment.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Just to put everyone’s mind at ease, especially The Reason (that’s their current user name, they have had many.....) who has been particularly affected by this, Hull FC have been quoted on Radio Humberside that they will be investigating this situation and dealing with it internally and will not make any further comment.'"
Well done hull F.C. that’s the first and I hope the last time I say that bloody hell
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Bulls***
It's hard to understand alot of what he says. But he says something like "I don't care who she is but she needs to tell her bloke before I throw her bloke on the concrete."'"
Incorrect . He threatens to throw an 18 year old girl on the concrete .
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| They have dealt with it internally....as in "what were you thinking of Albert....you are one p1sshead aren't you ? See you tomorrow, mate"
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I doubt Hull will have any morals regarding how they deal with this bully who threatens young girls ....
But you can be disciplined / contract terminated for out of work activities , however I think he will get a contract extension at Hull .
Example of a club with ethics :
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/todd-c ... zsq6u.html
Todd Carney's NRL career appears to be over after Cronulla sacked the five-eighth after a photo of him engaging in a vulgar act circulated on social media on Saturday night.
The Sharks released a statement on Sunday evening to say: "The Cronulla Sharks Football Club has today after careful consideration and lengthy deliberation, including discussions with senior NRL management, made a decision to terminate Todd Carney’s NRL playing contract effective immediately. At the Sharks we are committed to building a successful club, a club with strong values and a club which sets and respects high standards in all aspects of its operations and activities. When Todd was first signed to the Sharks he was made well aware of his responsibilities both on and off the field, to himself, the club and to the game in general, however the photograph that appeared last night on social media does not meet the values and standards the club is looking to uphold and take into the future.
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I doubt Hull will have any morals regarding how they deal with this bully who threatens young girls ....
But you can be disciplined / contract terminated for out of work activities , however I think he will get a contract extension at Hull .
Example of a club with ethics :
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/todd-c ... zsq6u.html
Todd Carney's NRL career appears to be over after Cronulla sacked the five-eighth after a photo of him engaging in a vulgar act circulated on social media on Saturday night.
The Sharks released a statement on Sunday evening to say: "The Cronulla Sharks Football Club has today after careful consideration and lengthy deliberation, including discussions with senior NRL management, made a decision to terminate Todd Carney’s NRL playing contract effective immediately. At the Sharks we are committed to building a successful club, a club with strong values and a club which sets and respects high standards in all aspects of its operations and activities. When Todd was first signed to the Sharks he was made well aware of his responsibilities both on and off the field, to himself, the club and to the game in general, however the photograph that appeared last night on social media does not meet the values and standards the club is looking to uphold and take into the future.
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| Some people suggesting someone may have said something to Albert that caused his outburst. Well, if that did happen, my money is on Albert being totally incapable of deciphering anything he may have heard
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| finally put that moron the reason on foe
kelly did wrong, hull fc will deal with it in house, most sensible people would tell its a set up but still no excuse for his actions
also there is no excuse for some over the top posts from a certain kr poster who has a clear agenda against fc, kelly and anything fc related.
let it go before it makes you ill!
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Albert Kelly Obviously has alcohol and behavioural issues .
https://www.theherald.com.au/story/2050 ... y-knights/
The former Australian Schoolboy pleading guilty on Tuesday to smashing a light at Newcastle nightspot Fannys in April and the incident is believed to have led to his sacking.
Earlier this season Kelly was discarded by Cronulla for a string of alcohol-related incidents.
Knights CEO Matt Gidley confirmed Kelly’s contract termination in a question and answer forum with supporters.
‘‘There is no doubt Albert is a talented young player who obviously had some issues off the field while living in Sydney,’’ Gidley said.
‘‘We offered Albert an opportunity to move to Newcastle to focus on his rugby league career under the guidance of Wayne Bennett.
‘‘Unfortunately, due to further disciplinary reasons, Albert has recently had his NSW Cup contract suspended, then terminated.
‘‘We wish Albert the best of luck in fulfilling his rugby league potential in the near future and thank him for his efforts whilst at our Club.’’
Kelly was sacked by the Knights two weeks ago before it is understood coach Wayne Bennett over-ruled the decision and he has since been suspended.
The Knights signed the 21-year-old to a second-tier contract to play in their reserve side in the NSW Cup after Kelly arrived in town to play in the Newcastle Rugby League with Central Newcastle.
Central coach Paul Davis is Kelly’s uncle.
Last Sunday Kelly tore in hamstring playing for the Butcher Boys against Western Suburbs and is expected to be sidelined for at least the next month.
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Albert Kelly Obviously has alcohol and behavioural issues .
https://www.theherald.com.au/story/2050 ... y-knights/
The former Australian Schoolboy pleading guilty on Tuesday to smashing a light at Newcastle nightspot Fannys in April and the incident is believed to have led to his sacking.
Earlier this season Kelly was discarded by Cronulla for a string of alcohol-related incidents.
Knights CEO Matt Gidley confirmed Kelly’s contract termination in a question and answer forum with supporters.
‘‘There is no doubt Albert is a talented young player who obviously had some issues off the field while living in Sydney,’’ Gidley said.
‘‘We offered Albert an opportunity to move to Newcastle to focus on his rugby league career under the guidance of Wayne Bennett.
‘‘Unfortunately, due to further disciplinary reasons, Albert has recently had his NSW Cup contract suspended, then terminated.
‘‘We wish Albert the best of luck in fulfilling his rugby league potential in the near future and thank him for his efforts whilst at our Club.’’
Kelly was sacked by the Knights two weeks ago before it is understood coach Wayne Bennett over-ruled the decision and he has since been suspended.
The Knights signed the 21-year-old to a second-tier contract to play in their reserve side in the NSW Cup after Kelly arrived in town to play in the Newcastle Rugby League with Central Newcastle.
Central coach Paul Davis is Kelly’s uncle.
Last Sunday Kelly tore in hamstring playing for the Butcher Boys against Western Suburbs and is expected to be sidelined for at least the next month.
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| Well I would rather have my daughter called a slut every day of week than ever have the misfortune to meet "The Reason," that's for sure.
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| Quote ="number 6", most sensible people would tell its [ua set up[/u but still no excuse for his actions'"
It’s possible.
But if it is the case, it seems most likely to be an opportunistic one. Kelly doesn’t seem know the targets of his abuse, so I doubt they had spent the evening buying him drinks. And, while it’s possible his belligerence is a reaction to provocation, he chooses his own words.
On the other hand, it’s possible, from what we’ve seen, that the recording starts not when Kelly starts being abusive, but because he is being abusive in the first place. Is there anyway we can tell from the footage whether it starts at somebody pressing record or has been edited to remove earlier footage? Genuine question. Even then it could just be that the earlier stuff was relatively boring. E.g. they started filming a wobbly drunk AK, and that was what provoked him.
Increasingly the bigger story, imo, is the Hull Daily Mail’s failure to report on it. I’m not for one moment drawing a direct morale equivalence between this omission, glaring as it is, and Kelly’s behaviour. There might be a good reason for it and the good reason might need to remain secret e.g. if somebody involved is in a vulnerable place right now and they don’t want to risk making it worse. However, if it genuinely is as James Smailes (of the HDM) apparently characterised it last night, that’d be pretty poor.
Hull FC can cite the need to conduct an investigation still. But if they don’t ultimately put out even a minimalist statement clarifying the situation or expressing regret and noting his behaviour was not in line with the club’s values, that’d be beyond pathetic, imo.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Well I would rather have my daughter called a slut every day of week than ever have the misfortune to meet "The Reason," that's for sure.'"
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| Quote ="Trinity18"That's disgusting...'"
Just to clarify. I meant for her to have the misfortune, not me. Besides I don't have a daughter.
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"Not quite sure what I've done to make it something it isn't ? I simply asked if the poster thought it was ok to abuse Women, to which the poster added he wouldn't be overly bothered if it was members of his female family, I'm a little shocked I must admit.
I have no interest in it being Albert Kelly the rugby player just the fact that a man is seen abusing a female. TBH he could have been most places in the UK and nobody would have know him from Adam.
Just for clarity I'm sure there are mitigating circumstances like why an employee is filming him I don't know but I'm not ok with blokes abusing women and I'm glad to see your not also.'"
Anyway. You're a Salford fan. How is Robert Liu getting on? Do you shake your head in condemnation every time he scores?
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Anyway. You're a Salford fan. How is Robert Liu getting on? Do you shake your head in condemnation every time he scores?'"
Ah yes - whataboutery - that always works well in these situations.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Just to clarify. I meant for her to have the misfortune, not me. Besides I don't have a daughter.'"
I don't think there's anything wrong with what Kelly has done anyway, he's had a few too many glass sandwiches which I think we're all guilty of doing and an augment/confrontation has got out of hand.
Lebron James describes the "victim" as a "lovely young woman" as if he knows her, she's also out at what seems a late hour, quite possible could have had a few herself... Nobody know what started this whole thing off and he was obviously put in that mood for a reason. I say stick to your guns Albert
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I'm not using Lui to defend Kelly, two completely different situations. Just pointing out that it's massive double standards if he goes along and cheers for Lui whilst condemning Kelly for something very trivial in comparison.
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