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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"That knee to the head penalty was a fookin disgraceful call. Knock on by the England player despite the contact which wasn't horrendous anyway but a penalty. Jesus christ, it has Ganson written all over it, that time he penalised Constantine Mika for 'leading with the head' in a tackle when it was just an accidental clash of head.
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Thought I heard Bentham let slip saying to the England kicking tee carrier that he's got a new job?
Fackng good riddance if so!'"
Appauling wasnt it. He was runnin at 100mph how he could avoid his head? Its a knock on by Eng.
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| Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"Appauling wasnt it. He was runnin at 100mph how he could avoid his head? Its a knock on by Eng.'"
Should it have been knock on though? He's knocked on because he's just been tw*tted round the head, accidental or not. Should have just been a play the ball on the spot.
Good crowd there tonight btw, great to see.
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| Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"Yes there was a touch. Did he play at the ball? Nah. Facing sidewards and it seemed to come off his hip. Its a ludicrous 'rule' then that rewards a bad pass'"
If defender knocks the ball forward with their hand, whether accidental or not, it's a knock on.
Are you Jean Capdouze ?
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"Should it have been knock on though? He's knocked on because he's just been tw*tted round the head, accidental or not. Should have just been a play the ball on the spot.
Good crowd there tonight btw, great to see.'"
Cracking crowd that doesnt want to see pathetic decisions. And Woods has the gaul to say the crowds gone quiet ha! England were always going to win but Christ they get gifted everything.
Widdops poor. The last play options are basic in general. If youre enthused by this then wow.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"If defender knocks the ball forward with their hand, whether accidental or not, it's a knock on.
Are you Jean Capdouze ?'"
Are you John Kear? Sound almost as far away from the game as possible. 'Englands discipline has been excellent'...3 french pens on bounce since that kear gem!!
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| Did he just give back to one when two Eng players touched the ball? And overiding the linesman for a 40/20. This is comical.
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| Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"Did he just give back to one when two Eng players touched the ball? And overiding the linesman for a 40/20. This is comical.'"
40/20 call was ridiculous. You can't see that on a TV replay, the linesman is about thirty five minutes closer than Bentham, but his eyes are better?
Knee to head penalty is rubbish, not a knock on though, just check the injury and other.
Think Scott Taylor has played himself into a shirt, not sure about full back and it's annoyed me them saying about how much Josh has kicked on, he is doing great at Canberra, but he was playing this eighty minute role at Rovers.
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| Bentham is a class A twit. He's got so much wrong tonight its embarrassing.
Kear is equally as clueless. England will get turned over with ease playing like this against NZ. Most tries have come from possession gifted to them, if you can't see this as an Eng fan well...
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| Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"Bentham is a class A twit. He's got so much wrong tonight its embarrassing.
Kear is equally as clueless. England will get turned over with ease playing like this against NZ. Most tries have come from possession gifted to them, if you can't see this as an Eng fan well...'"
Kear clueless ?
One of THE most experienced coaches in the game and you think he's clueless ??
Apart from complimenting the discipline of England, what has he said that is "clueless".
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| Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"Bentham is a class A twit. He's got so much wrong tonight its embarrassing.'"
Couldn't a neutral ref be found?
Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"Kear is equally as clueless. England will get turned over with ease playing like this against NZ. Most tries have come from possession gifted to them, if you can't see this as an Eng fan well...'"
Kear is so enthused by England's performance, he's almost awarded the 4N to them already.
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| Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"Bentham is a class A twit. He's got so much wrong tonight its embarrassing.
Kear is equally as clueless. England will get turned over with ease playing like this against NZ. Most tries have come from possession gifted to them, if you can't see this as an Eng fan well...'"
To be fair, a lot of this team is experimentle.
Most haven't played together and it would be hard for any good team to step it up against such weak opposition in a friendly game.
It'll be a different story in the four nations under a different pressure with a different team.
There was a lot of positives this evening. Wasn't our usual trying to score off every play performance.. It was professional. It was a good warm up!
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| Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"Bentham is a class A twit. He's got so much wrong tonight its embarrassing.
Kear is equally as clueless. England will get turned over with ease playing like this against NZ. Most tries have come from possession gifted to them, if you can't see this as an Eng fan well...'"
Following from what he said earlier to the tee carrier, at the end of the game I think he was saying to the players its his last game.
On that performance one can only hope. His open congratulation on air for a (cooper?) tackle on the french 10m when it was very close if not actually a high shot was incredible.
I wonder if he's staying within the game in another capacity, it's like Cummins/Ganson all over again if that's the case!
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| This game repeated on any channel at all ?at work so unabke to watch it.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"This game repeated on any channel at all ?at work so unabke to watch it.'"
Repeated on the Red button ch601 at 23:50 tonight
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| Back line did OK for a first run out. Percival stronger in second half. Gale looked busy.
Though Taylor played very well and possibly got himself in the 17
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| Taylor did play well. He played with far more aggression then I usually see.
It was a lose lose tonight for England. I actually think the biggest positive from the game was France! They played pretty well and they were very determined. England player pretty well but even if they'd stuck a hundred on them they'd have still been bagged for beating a poor side.
It was a good run out for me and the players will be better for it. We've got some fantastic talent to come back in to the side as well.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Taylor did play well. He played with far more aggression then I usually see.
It was a lose lose tonight for England. I actually think the biggest positive from the game was France! They played pretty well and they were very determined. England player pretty well but even if they'd stuck a hundred on them they'd have still been bagged for beating a poor side.
It was a good run out for me and the players will be better for it. We've got some fantastic talent to come back in to the side as well.'"
Taylor was aggressive like that for the first 3/4 of the season to be fair mate
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| problem for taylor is that graham and hill are probable starters, then you have the burgess twins. i personally would have taylor in instead of tom but reckon bennett will go for the aforementioned props
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| Lomax
McGilvary
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Williams
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Graham
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Clark
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| Quote ="NSW"Lomax
McGilvary
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Percival
Hall
Williams
Widdop
Hill
Hodgson
Graham
Whitehead
Bateman
Burgess S
Farrell
Clark
Burgess T
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For next week'"
Gale for Williams, and G Burgess for Farrell and that's my team
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| [* Quote ="Wilde 3"Gale for Williams, and G Burgess for Farrell and that's my team'"
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"His passing is truly awful.
Just wangs it, no spin on the ball and consequently really slow and inaccurate.'"
Most of the time you don't want spin on the ball. Most of Widdop's passes tonight were to Lomax out the back, him spinning this makes it a much harder pass for Lomax to catch in a good position to pass it on again.
Watch the highlights from today's game. Widdop's pass to Lomax in the first try there is no spin on it, meaning Lomax can move it on more accurately and faster (because it's easier to catch it in a better grip). Widdop's pass to Hall for the try to take us 22-6 up was span because it didn't need to be moved on once Hall caught it. It's a sign of a bad playmaker for them to spin every pass.
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| Quote ="NSW"Lomax
McGilvary
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Farrell
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Taylor
For next week'"
I'd go with that with the exception of Sarginson for Percival, as I think Sarge's work rate is going to be particularly important against tougher defences. I'd also start Farrell on the left with Bateman on the bench.
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