You can be as positive as you like, & fair play to you, but all William did was publish the attendances week on week to ridicule the statement from the RFL about how crowds were booming, when clearly that wasn’t the case.





The flaw in Williams weekly analysis was the comparisons between the previous year’s matches. Yet you are happy to implement the same system when it’s apparent there’s a lot of inconsistencies when trying to compare like for like.

So, after the first twenty three rounds, what then, maybe just average the top eight attendances & proclaim to the nation that everything’s hunky-dory.

He wasn't hounded out, he just disappeared (in a faux outrage/dummy spit) at the banning of other trolling posters.

Truth is his repeated targets are/have become null...because attendance drops won't be as bad this year with the demoting of London and Bradford (although Wakey could offer him some hope).

Sinfield has retired from internationals so he can't hammer that one on the Leeds board (although I'm slightly surprised he didn't rock up on announcement of Sinfield's RU switch)

The Eng/NZ fixtures and venues have been announced so he can't moan about them anymore. (We may hear from him afterwards telling us half the stadium was empty even though photographic proof proves otherwise........and that's largely why he's disappeared, his Club Wembley seats claim that blew up in his face)

Top 8 playoff system rewarding mediocre teams.....that's gone too with a top 4 playoff now.

Basically all his repeated tedious angles have exhausted and he's run out of material....simple as that really. Sure he'll be back in time (probably telling us that Eng/NZ Olympic Stadium tickets are selling for 99p) but for now all he'd really be left with is too talk about actual RL ON FIELD matters.....and I've never seen him display any knowledge of that, like his mate Gutters he can only debate ticket sales/viewing figures/sponsorship deals, nothing actually about the action on the pitch.

That's all he did? You haven't been here long have you?



You might want to read the thread again as that's not what i've done on this thread or the other. And again, no one's claiming comparing "round to round" to be definitive but over the course of the season it's the probably the best way to do it.



After 23 rounds we start something completely new with nothing to compare against. It ain't rocket science.

Lets be honest here William Eve was necessary for these forums to regain some sense of normality.
clubs were collapsing on a rapid basis,the standards on the field were dropping rapidly and fans were walking away en mass.Something had to be done.

That said its great to see posters who were against WEs stance now pushing the positivity of attendances being up,hopefully the positivity continues.

On another note it really is hilarious to see the usual suspect " smokey ta" falling out with loiner81 for being positive about attendances in the same way he fell out with william eve for being negative about attendances.What a hammerhead he is.

What is hilarious is you confusing yourself so much in attempting to have a pop at others for pushing an agenda that you reveal yours so obviously.

If I were making a point about franchising v P+R I would be pointing out that attendances are notably down on our last year of franchising (but im not, because such a comparison would be, get this, flawed)

But I wasn't, I was simply pointing out to loiner81, the same as I was to billy, that flawed comparisons do nothing other than help morons push agenda's. It was nice of you to provide such an illuminating example of those wishing to twist flawed stats to further their agenda.

Thing is.....he wasn't, neither was Gutterfax. He started a thread about attendances because the guy in charge at the RFL had apparently the bare faced cheek to big up attendances when he could.....hardly a crime you wouldn't see committed every day in the working world by a guy in that position. (Could William/Gutters honestly say they wouldn't find themselves putting positive spin on attendances when they could if they had that role in the RFL?..... If they say no they're lying)

Gutterfax/Galliant again kicked off because ONE poster subscribed to BT sports to watch RU even though he disliked it and they then tried making out that numerous RL fans were doing the same.

What they do is take ONE/TWO persons comments and try and make out that the majority of the RL community think the exact same.....it's the cheapest form of attention seeking and trolling there is. Like i said before, the biggest trolls on here usually display no grasp of the actual product on the field, because they've probably only played it once as a kid, got sat on their backside first tackle and belittled it from a spectator view ever since.

Stratch beneath the surface and see that their topics and posts are the same repeatitive stuff over and over and over again and you'll see just how little they offer. Like Gutters always talking RU sponsorship and attendances......is it because he has a good point he's passionate about.....or is it because he knows naff all about on field action.

Good way to spot a troll on here. They'll portray an image of someone who is all knowledgable....yet will only talk about the 4/5 topics they feel they can talk and win about.

On this forum, a similar time to you, on this god forsaken earth, probably a lot longer. But whatever you’re getting at, it still won’t sway my opinions, no matter how many of the rose tinted brigade scream & shout - R.L’s popularity is flat-lining.



Oh sorry when you said



I thought you meant they could be compared - apologies, silly me.

Yep, you sound like it too. Funny how it's always those who've been into something for the longest time that like to hate on it's current state.
Everything was better when you were a lad, eh.



And yet crowds are up, sponsorship is at record levels and there's never in the history of the game been more TV exposure. Go figure





Not really. Like for like and round for round are pretty different.

Silly you indeed.

And yet you're still to come up with a better alternative to put forward for us agenda driven morons to discuss. This is a discussion board after all and people, especially RL fans, like to discuss crowds.

Hate? Why would I hate an initiative where at last there is a slim chance of a club from the Championship getting promoted to S.L?



Crowds are up, based on your flawed comparison system.

Sponsorship , I’ve no idea how you quantify this, but hasn’t the FTSE just hit new heights?

As for your bold statement about T.V exposure, are you referring to the two or three games on Sky each week, or maybe the plethora of R.L related press inches?

Oh, thanks for the emoticon proclaiming I’m stupid.



I’ve no idea what this statement means, what with being stupid & all - #back-tracking

Goal posts moved, well done.




Oh god, not you too. Please feel free to offer an alternative.



I've no idea, I do know we just signed a record TV deal amongst other new sponsorship deals.



Bring back Scrumdown on ITV eh !!



Hey, you started that with your sarcy "silly me" comment.



Really? Like for like is totally different to round for round. A part of this thread and countless other threads discuss both. #confusedmuch

And just going back to this comment. Should we make it easy for part timers and teams that weren't good enough for SL to get back in? Is that really what you're now moaning about?
Should we bring back the glory days of clubs being promoted, getting battered every week before dropping back down to div1?
Let's play it in Winter too and only have a 45 minute highlight show on ITV.

THOSE WERE THE DAYS

You really do appear to have a chip on your shoulder about something.

All I said was I’m pleased there is at last a pathway for clubs to return to the S.L, is there any need for you to go on a diatribe, especially as you’ve never supported a team in the lower leagues.

Not once have I “moaned”, neither have I mentioned any glory days & where have I cited winter rugby?

I assume you were one of William’s main protagonists, & presumably your trying to provoke me in the same manner – good luck with that one.

I didn’t realise this board had become The Rose Tinted Terrace.

Alas it has and traffic and instances of genuine interest are down as a result.

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That has to be the understatement of the year

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Super league for some reason got 'huge hits' in October last year.

Unprecedented.

Maybe Flower should have got a bonus.....

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Not at all. Quite the opposite actually although I do enjoy coming on here now and then for a bit of pointless bickering.



Sorry for that then, I misread your post. It came across (to me at least) as sarcasm and considering some of your earlier posts that was a fairly easy mistake to make.



Well you rebuffed my comment re the current TV exposure and pre-Sky we were limited to highlights shows in the Winter weren't we?



It'll never become the Rose Tinted Terrace but it's nice to be positive now and then. More on here should try it.
My glass has been half-full since 1981 and it's had to be as i'm a Leeds fan. I suffered 23 years of pain. Things were that bad that most of the Leeds forum are still miserable pessimists, writing the club off every season, even after what's happened in the last decade. Try reading some of the posts on there from before this season kicked off

Wow, why do you even bother with this user name

Poor, even by your standards.

I fail to see how graphical evidence that traffic a down is poor.......by any standards

Anyone got any news on attendances? Hudds-Leeds looks down from the same fixture last year, its not great for a yorks derby.

hudds v leeds (8759) 6381 (last years in brackets)
hull v salford (9821) 9385
saints v wakey (1070icon_cool.gif 10001
wigan v hull kr (12801) 11468
wire v widnes (10500) 10856
cas v dragons (5104) 5704

My maths is dodgy but that equates (i think) to - 4854 on the same fixtures last year. It could be a one-off though..