Like Celtic Crusaders? ,of course we did

You're right. This person who didnt understand what licensing was or that we had it, would have certainly been surprised at the conclusions of a licensing period.

I stand corrected. It did manage to confuse you. Well done.............I think.

They didnt last a licensing period, as we ' fans of clubs who had experienced the Celtic Crusaders farce before SL ' told you they wouldnt

Even the RFL didnt understand licensing

Either way if you dont want to watch the new structure, you wont be missed

more irrelevance from old starry.
you mean not watch like you havent for the passed few years?

Ill still be watching, unlike you im not going to throw a hissy fit and refuse to go because the structure isnt what i want. Watching your reaction as your pet clubs try and fail to compete with the real big boys will be funny. Your panty twisting when I said Leeds played poorly beating Leigh was funny.

The real damage in this system is done to the Championship clubs who miss out on the top two this year, suddenly they are going to be at a massive financial disadvantage against four teams in their own division, the top four in the championship will be set in stone year after year, only a rich benefactor will give the other teams a chance.

Bit of a mystery why they didn't taper the cash for places in the Championship rather than load the Top 2 - not complaining personally of course as we will benefit on this occasion!

So tell us where exactly the massive financial divide should be?

Not in the middle of a division that's for sure.

What I find intriguing is all this apparent concern for the welfare of the lower tier clubs, in that we see fans of SL clubs saying how unfair it will be and how unlikely it will be to see one of the lower tier promoted, generally all we have seen in the past is scorn poured upon these clubs for even suggesting promotion should be brought back in any form, or just plain lack of interest

Well i'm a fan of a lower tier club who is concerned about lower tier clubs.

My first concern was that Championship 1 clubs wouldn't be cut adrift and they aren't.

I don't see how allowing two championship clubs to become competitive is a solution to the problems the game faces.

The RFL have picked the wrong option.

So where exactly?

The right one is?

Why would you need to?


It's very easy to influence the uninformed. It's not a case of intelligence.


If I was talking about the NFL play-offs, I'd have said NFL play-offs.

I see you've again disingenuously ignored the difficult parts, like how the group games work. Go on, explain that one. Had that been an RFL concept, you'd be booting off!


The fact you've still not felt the need to attempt to explain the full NFL system to me (despite asking) tells me you don't really think you need to go into that much detail.
Explain the full NFL system to them and see if it's a similar reaction...


Talking it down won't help it succeed. Personally, you seem the sort that would rather be right than see something succeed. I hope I'm wrong.


I can't answer that. I think it may have to do with sharing the gate in play off games, could be wrong.
But so far Leeds and Salford have announced season tickets that cover both the regular rounds and the Super 8s. So it is simple.


What?


To be honest, I'm inclined to agree as it's something I've suggested. I think it would have been interesting to have a SL Shield for the winners of a play-off. But your reaction to the Championship Shield is probably the reason why they haven't seen it as a must have. You never know, they may introduce it along the line. It's not a major issue.


There aren't Champions in the other two groups of 8. Ones a secondary shield competition, and the other is a qualifying group. They're playing for different things. It's hardly a mess and you're just being over dramatic because you don't like it.

Simple innit.

After the first 3yrs i stopped trying to explain it and just shrugged my shoulders instead

Irrelevant now.

Where would i have the big divide, is also irrelevant as I wouldn't be going with this new format. Of the 9 current championship teams who will be in next seasons championship they are enabling two teams to be competitive in the regular season, the rest will have to do something out of the ordinary to get close to the top four in the opening 23 games.

Championship teams that can afford to go full time will just hoover up the best of the talent from rival clubs, only players who want to remain part time because of outside interests will resist. Full time training will improve their standards relative to the rest of the league giving them a further advantage. They have created a new glass ceiling for the rest of the competition and it now happens four places into the second tier instead of at the top of the second tier. Things are worse for the all but two championship clubs.

Is 1million pound enough to have a full time squad of 25 players? That doesn't sound much for a salary, 40k avg? Be interesting to see how many clubs can generate enough revenue to pay up to 1million on the squad. Gives clubs with money backers an opportunity I guess. Wonder if there are any French clubs capable of generating that much revenue?

The new structure places a ' stepping stone ' between part time Championship clubs and a full time SL with a 1.8 million salary cap , when I first heard of the system, my 1 st reaction was the potential damage done to the credibility of the Championship, but ultimatly it does open up SL to those clubs that can earn or attract income

The challenge is there for all clubs, hopefully enough will rise to it

The Champions League is far, far simpler to grasp than our new league structure.
Have you tried explaining the 2x12 and 3x8 system to any non RL fans yet, people are certainly surprised by it's complexity.
Even on threads like this one, not everyone is clear on what will happen and this forum is generally used by people who think they have a decent knowledge of the game.

There is nothing to say that if there is an increase in revenue that other teams in future years will not get more money.

As I said pages back no matter the structure there will be those who moan at the top and bottom.

What are you struggling to grasp about the new system?

And explain the qualifying process for the Champions League...

I explained it to my soccer loving mates at work who thought it was a great idea
What this will do is create a logical pathway to have two full time tens in a few years as it allows the second tier clubs to develop a FT structure with increased funding and the dream that attracts fans and sponsors
Toulouse need to enter asap then another French club a couple of years later

It really is simple, build your Championship club financially and you will get a chance to enter SL irrelivant of location and past history

Dont build your SL club financially and you could get relegated irrelivant of location and past history

Its called proffessional sport

Guess I need to to scrub up on my times tables

You probably need to read it through again.

Simple would be 1 up 1 down or 2 up 2 down.

Just a simple question for you though.

How long do you think that the game will stick with the new system.
5 years, 10 years or for the foreseeable future ?