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| Quote ="MjM"If there was anyone posting mock-outrage on this thread who didn't have an anti-Leeds agenda then it might be interesting.
Peacock's verbal volley should have resulted in a fine or suspension but for anyone to claim that it was in any way similar to Hardaker's offence, for which he should have been sacked, is truly, and knowingly, ridiculous.'"
Was Peacock's comment said to the ref or, was he thinking out loud? If he said the words out of earshot of the ref, in frustration, but not directly to him then I can understand why no charge was made.
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| Quote ="MjM"If there was anyone posting mock-outrage on this thread who didn't have an anti-Leeds agenda then it might be interesting.
Peacock's verbal volley should have resulted in a fine or suspension but for anyone to claim that it was in any way similar to Hardaker's offence, for which he should have been sacked, is truly, and knowingly, ridiculous.'"
Mock outrage..do you even know what that means sunshine?
Please do tell how you can ascribe what I've written as 'mock', outrage..not really, just my opinion and fairly accurate conclusion on the sorry state of affairs that is the RFL and Mssr Jamie Peacock and his foul mouth/OTT reactions plus the pathetic public 'apology' given out by Hardakers PR team.
As for you saying they aren't similar..well, that says more about your level of intelligence that you can't see the similarities between the comments made by both players.
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| What a useless ing contest of a thread. Strap on a pair lads!
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| I am sick of this personal viciousness. Will the Mods please lock it?
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| MOS Chris Hill must be in with a shout, best prop in the country
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Mock outrage..do you even know what that means sunshine?
Please do tell how you can ascribe what I've written as 'mock', outrage..not really, just my opinion and fairly accurate conclusion on the sorry state of affairs that is the RFL and Mssr Jamie Peacock and his foul mouth/OTT reactions plus the pathetic public 'apology' given out by Hardakers PR team.
As for you saying they aren't similar..well, that says more about your level of intelligence that you can't see the similarities between the comments made by both players.'"
You've lived Darn Sarf too long, treacle!
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| Chris Hill has been utterly Sensational in pretty much every game he has played and must be in with a great shout of winning MOS.
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| Its going to take some forward to be able to match Hills stats this season.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Its going to take some forward to be able to match Hills stats this season.
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so he's played 4 more games than Peacock, and only made 144 more meters?
very impressive!
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| He's twice as effective as a try scorer, 3 x more assists, makes more tackles per game but more crucially misses far far less tackles, Hill makes more Busts, averages more meter per carry and makes 7 x the number of clean breaks that Peacock does.
As for the played more games, I'd hazard a guess that Peacocks spent more minutes on the field than Hill despite playing in less games.
The stats tell us that Hill is a far more damaging front rower/player than Peacock is!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"He's twice as effective as a try scorer, 3 x more assists, makes more tackles per game but more crucially misses far far less tackles, Hill makes more Busts, averages more meter per carry and makes 7 x the number of clean breaks that Peacock does.
As for the played more games, I'd hazard a guess that Peacocks spent more minutes on the field than Hill despite playing in less games.
The stats tell us that Hill is a far more damaging front rower/player than Peacock is!'"
I have seen stats in previous seasons which showed Peter Fox better than Ryan Hall, and Geg Eden better than Sam Tomkins.
The stats, are moment in time measure. They give nothing factual on the influence a player has on other parts of the game, things that are not measured. Such as how many tackles have resulted in knock ons from the opposition, how many carries as resulted in the opposition giving a penalty away, did a run attract the opposition to one side to leave the space on the other, did a good tackle hurt the opposition. These are vital information.
It doesn't matter what the numbers are currently, Peacock is far more influential and important to that Leeds team than Hill is to Wire. This is a consideration when MOS is voted upon.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"He's twice as effective as a try scorer, 3 x more assists, '"
you mean in 4 extra games he has 1 more try and 2 more assists
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| Quote ="The Avenger"makes more tackles per game'"
Hill - 514 in 17 games = 30.23
Peacock - 464 in 13 games = 35.69
And not shown on there
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Hill - 17 in 17 games
Peacock - 32 in 13 games
Hill - 10 penalties given away
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"you mean in 4 extra games he has 1 more try and 2 more assists
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Go work it out in minutes played rather than appearances
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Go work it out in minutes played rather than appearances'"
Why? The fact we get big, consistent minutes out of Peacock is one of the reason Peacock is so good.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Go work it out in minutes played rather than appearances'"
We don't need to, you yourself did "hazard a guess" that Peacock had done more than Hill. Seems accurate enough lol.
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| Throwing Wellens name into the hat for a late surge on this. Been absolutely slated at times this year by the saints fans but he just comes back better each week - nobody embodies saints more and never gives less than everything to the cause
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| Quote ="The Avenger"He's twice as effective as a try scorer, '" Whilst two is twice the value of one, its a very positive spin to suggest he's twice as effective a try scorer with such low values.
If another player hasn't scored any this season, would you describe Peacock as an [iinfinitely [/imore effective tryscorer?
Bottom line - neither players score many tries.
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| Clarke must have a real chance, currently the best player in SL. Cas were looking in a bit of trouble tonight and his outstanding try won them the game.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Clarke must have a real chance, currently the best player in SL. Cas were looking in a bit of trouble tonight and his outstanding try won them the game.'"
Absolutely. He's a real game changer but, of course, not he's not iconic like our Jamie.
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| Daryl Clark is a poor man's Paul McShane remember, though.
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| Quote ="Fully"Daryl Clark is a poor man's Paul McShane remember, though.'"
Is that one a Smokey or a Vasty comment?
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Is that one a Smokey or a Vasty comment?
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Neither - some other Wakefield fan who claimed that the Cas team is no better than Wakefield's
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