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| Quote ="Wembley71"...and that is exactly how it's been done.
In Bristol we have had:
- a corporate touch rugby event
- a female only touch rugby event
- a museum exhibition
- a cinema screening
- a music competition
- a cheerleading festival
- a student rl nines
- a wheelchair rl exhibition game
- a secondary schools rl competition
- a coaching masterclass.
- a stall at the Harbour Festival and the Brisfest Music Festival
- stalls at the weekend 'make Sunday special' events
- a stall at the Half Marathon
- the trophy tour for 4 days in Yate (a small local town), Bristol City Centre, and the international Balloon fiesta.
- a stall at the 1908 Cup Schools events (400+ kids from Gloucestershire playing an annual RL festival)
We've regularly been at the two universities, UWE and Uni Bristol, with a standard RFL ticketing deal for ALL their student clubs.
We've engaged with all the local amateur RL clubs
We (I) have emailed every rugby union club (over 150 of them) with the RFL ticket offers.
We've mailed all the coaches, volunteers, rlc players and RL spectators that we have contact details for
We've staged press events at the bid launch, the announcement of the venues, the 1 year to go, the announcement of the game, the 100 days, the 50 days, the arrival of the Cook Islands, the Civic reception for the team, the raising of the CI flag, and the USA flag.
We've had viral campaigns for our local theme song, with a video I cut from other videos ([urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTz7VXkLH0A[/url), and the footage of the Cook Island lads doing their haka at a local arts centre in Team Suits ([urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rHGYfpaNO0[/url)
We've had a huge social media campaign, particularly by systematically building up a twitter audience (we have 1753 followers in Bristol... Leeds has 1294).
We've had local leading councillors and mayors involved at major events.
We've run competitions for stash and tickets on all the local and regional radio stations.
We've run standard ticket offers for cashback to the Community Foundations for Bristol City, Bristol Rovers and Bristol Rugby.
We worked with the Cook Islands Tourist Board to get a troupe of Dancers over... they have performed for the Mayor, at an arts venue, at a museum, and at the Bristol Rovers home game v Chesterfield last weekend, before coming to the match and performing there.
Our entertainment included a local choir, the Bristol Samba Band, our singer (NICOLE), three groups of cheerleaders, the local Police Ceremonial Guard, 'Mr Isambard Kingdom Brunel' from SS Great Britain, 7 local schools, all the schools from the RL competition, and 4 local RL clubs
The City Council bought and erected huge banners around the city. RLWC funded bus ads and bus-shelter adshel ads.
The Council also ran a few local ads, and advertised in the Cardiff programme, and put flyers and fixture cards in all the leisure centres and libraries.
S Glos Council ran library exhibitions, and presented every school with a RLWC ball
We've run press articles in Forty-20, the African-Caribbean media, local history bulletins, and in papers from the regional Bristol Post down to the doorstep-local 'Bishopston Matters' news-sheet.
In other words.... we've reached out to hundreds of different groups of people, a very few who know RL, a lot who only know union or football, and even more who don't follow any sport. We built our audience over 2 years and dozens of programmes, in the framework from, and supported by markeing from, RLWC2013. The key was, and is, to get people talking about it, to make one or two key advocates in dozens of different groups, and to get them to spread the word. We didn't spend a fortune because we didn't have a fortune to spend.
But we did get 7000 people to a RL match in Bristol.'"
You didn't really do very much......
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| Quote ="Wembley71"- support Student RL, and the Student Alumni properly - that's a genuinely national game, and why? Because it is self-run by smart young adults.... a pool of (intellectual) talent we don't nurture and sustain after they graduate (which is sad, because they become the bosses, teachers, leaders in the next generation)
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| Quote ="Wembley71"...and that is exactly how it's been done.
In Bristol we have had:
- a corporate touch rugby event
- a female only touch rugby event
- a museum exhibition
- a cinema screening
- a music competition
- a cheerleading festival
- a student rl nines
- a wheelchair rl exhibition game
- a secondary schools rl competition
- a coaching masterclass.
- a stall at the Harbour Festival and the Brisfest Music Festival
- stalls at the weekend 'make Sunday special' events
- a stall at the Half Marathon
- the trophy tour for 4 days in Yate (a small local town), Bristol City Centre, and the international Balloon fiesta.
- a stall at the 1908 Cup Schools events (400+ kids from Gloucestershire playing an annual RL festival)
We've regularly been at the two universities, UWE and Uni Bristol, with a standard RFL ticketing deal for ALL their student clubs.
We've engaged with all the local amateur RL clubs
We (I) have emailed every rugby union club (over 150 of them) with the RFL ticket offers.
We've mailed all the coaches, volunteers, rlc players and RL spectators that we have contact details for
We've staged press events at the bid launch, the announcement of the venues, the 1 year to go, the announcement of the game, the 100 days, the 50 days, the arrival of the Cook Islands, the Civic reception for the team, the raising of the CI flag, and the USA flag.
We've had viral campaigns for our local theme song, with a video I cut from other videos ([urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTz7VXkLH0A[/url), and the footage of the Cook Island lads doing their haka at a local arts centre in Team Suits ([urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rHGYfpaNO0[/url)
We've had a huge social media campaign, particularly by systematically building up a twitter audience (we have 1753 followers in Bristol... Leeds has 1294).
We've had local leading councillors and mayors involved at major events.
We've run competitions for stash and tickets on all the local and regional radio stations.
We've run standard ticket offers for cashback to the Community Foundations for Bristol City, Bristol Rovers and Bristol Rugby.
We worked with the Cook Islands Tourist Board to get a troupe of Dancers over... they have performed for the Mayor, at an arts venue, at a museum, and at the Bristol Rovers home game v Chesterfield last weekend, before coming to the match and performing there.
Our entertainment included a local choir, the Bristol Samba Band, our singer (NICOLE), three groups of cheerleaders, the local Police Ceremonial Guard, 'Mr Isambard Kingdom Brunel' from SS Great Britain, 7 local schools, all the schools from the RL competition, and 4 local RL clubs
The City Council bought and erected huge banners around the city. RLWC funded bus ads and bus-shelter adshel ads.
The Council also ran a few local ads, and advertised in the Cardiff programme, and put flyers and fixture cards in all the leisure centres and libraries.
S Glos Council ran library exhibitions, and presented every school with a RLWC ball
We've run press articles in Forty-20, the African-Caribbean media, local history bulletins, and in papers from the regional Bristol Post down to the doorstep-local 'Bishopston Matters' news-sheet.
In other words.... we've reached out to hundreds of different groups of people, a very few who know RL, a lot who only know union or football, and even more who don't follow any sport. We built our audience over 2 years and dozens of programmes, in the framework from, and supported by markeing from, RLWC2013. The key was, and is, to get people talking about it, to make one or two key advocates in dozens of different groups, and to get them to spread the word. We didn't spend a fortune because we didn't have a fortune to spend.
But we did get 7000 people to a RL match in Bristol.'"
That's about 20 x more than London Broncos have done in the last 15 years in total to promote the club and sport.
Proves you don't need money, just passion and a brain. A willing and interested local govt. also makes a big difference.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"That's about 20 x more than London Broncos have done in the last 15 years in total to promote the club and sport.
Proves you don't need money, just passion and a brain. A willing and interested local govt. also makes a big difference.'"
Well done indeed...
London Broncos given their budgets should have been running community focused programmes for years. Considering they already have community rugby league clubs in the city, they have seriously failed here (especially in the last few seasons).
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| Quote ="Sadfish"Its excellent to see stadia outside the "traditional" heartland with full terraces, no empty seats. The problem with the 2000 world cup was the, 1000 attendance in Belfast for a first day match etc. It doesn't get the game off to a good start.
This time round, people have bought into the tournement much better, I wonder what that is down to?
More money available to promote?
Better team put together to promote?
More press coverage?'"
to be fair to the year 2000 marketing team, social media has made it easier to connect with people without spending vast sums of money. Back then it was TV or press ads or nothing.
But yes there has been some great ground choices this time round, Fiji at Rochdale was a master-stroke, and even the tired Derwent Park & Memorial Stadium looked decent with a good crowd in.
the organisers have created a good mix of massive, shiny stadia like Cardiff and Wembley, decent SL grounds like the John Smith's and the KC, and smaller compact traditional rugby grounds.
also as others have mentioned, the Olympics has opened the public's eyes to try new sports and get involved, there seems to be a lot less 'snobbery' about the RLWorld cup as a result.
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| Brilliant night in Bristol, well done to all concerned.
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| Here is a (yet another) radical idea.
As a thank you to all the "non league" areas that have put on games, why not put on games, even double headers instead of the magic weekend?
It may not be easy, nothing worthwhile ever is, but it will keep the momentum going.
Once you have created an interest, it would be a shame to let it wither.
Now waits for the my club, home game, travel cost, season ticket etc etc apologists shoot the idea down.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Here is a (yet another) radical idea.
As a thank you to all the "non league" areas that have put on games, why not put on games, even double headers instead of the magic weekend?
It may not be easy, nothing worthwhile ever is, but it will keep the momentum going.
Once you have created an interest, it would be a shame to let it wither.
Now waits for the my club, home game, travel cost, season ticket etc etc apologists shoot the idea down.'"
OTR round would be great. Stadiums that hold 10k or so, opportunities for competing clubs to fill coaches, as well as attract long distance fans.
Wigan v London in Bristol.......Leeds v hudds in Cumbria
FC v Salford in Sheffield etcetera ......
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| When you take a club game off a club the issue is always ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££.
Who will pay??
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Here is a (yet another) radical idea.
As a thank you to all the "non league" areas that have put on games, why not put on games, even double headers instead of the magic weekend?
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It's an international event that has helped create interest.
These places won't give 2 sh*ts about wigan vs warrington, it just won't work on the same level.
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| I think you are correct, Flex Wheeler!
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| our grow is internationals not invented exiles games
proper tours
the nation does not care about wire v wigan........its nations wake up and smell coffee people
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"our grow is internationals not invented exiles games
proper tours
the nation does not care about wire v wigan........its nations wake up and smell coffee people'"
err, what?
You repeat what just wrote, proper sentence, I no understand.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"It's an international event that has helped create interest.
These places won't give 2 sh*ts about wigan vs warrington, it just won't work on the same level.'"
But isn't that precisely what lots of people said on here about the wisdom of staging a WC match in Bristol - no body gives a sh*t. It just won't work.
Of course it will work if the host clubs/councils do the necessary spadework as Wembley71 has outlined. I remember going to Welford Rd to see the Bulls v London. People had said that was a waste of time, nobody in Leicester is interested but it was packed, mainly with RU fans.
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| Quote ="Wembley71"I'll take that as a complement, given I wrote the bid and delivered the programme...
Huge kudos to RLWC2013 for a courageous decision to run with Bristol. The top team there, Sally Bolton, Jon Dutton, Mark Forster and Martin Johnston, have been superb throughout.
In fact they created the structure that has made this comp a success... a bidding process that meant local partners had to commit to delivering each individual game on a local level.
But the framework for success was set by the RLWC2013 team, and in turn by the RFL who commissioned and created them. '"
This.
Having been partly involved as Warrington rep on the RLWC2013 FLAG ( fans local advisory group) I've seen something of how things have been planned and organised and hopefully been able to contribute in a small way. Having towns have to bid to be hosts rather than just parachuting games into venues, meant local steering groups reaching out across all aspects of the community were formed who have worked really hard to make the tournament a success.
I've always been confident things would go well, but even so I'm delighted with the start we've got off to.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"It's an international event that has helped create interest.
These places won't give 2 sh*ts about wigan vs warrington, it just won't work on the same level.'"
London took games to Leicester and got good crowds.....it's about the marketing
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| It is obvious that the international dimension has helped elicit interest in rugby league among a broader public, esp. the fact that there are so many nations, some of them quite exotic Pacific Island nations. But also having the BBC behind this tournament has helped a lot.
Rugby union has understood that for years. Rugby union gets much of its money and kudos from the World Cups and international tournaments, so many of which are on terrestrial TV. That is why we have to bring on Four Nations again soon -- with BBC, not Sky, coverage.
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| Great work, you should be in charge of rfl marketing.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"It is obvious that the international dimension has helped elicit interest in rugby league among a broader public, esp. the fact that there are so many nations, some of them quite exotic Pacific Island nations. But also having the BBC behind this tournament has helped a lot.
Rugby union has understood that for years. Rugby union gets much of its money and kudos from the World Cups and international tournaments, so many of which are on terrestrial TV. That is why we have to bring on Four Nations again soon -- with BBC, not Sky, coverage.'"
It's not often you are right my pseudo French buddy, but I think on this occasion you deserve a gold star sticker for stating the ing obvious. The NRL gets $200 mil a year for about 425 televised games a year.......the Rahs of the 6 nations get 1/3 of that each year for 15 games............
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"It's an international event that has helped create interest.
These places won't give 2 sh*ts about wigan vs warrington, it just won't work on the same level.'"
Perhaps. I'd be interested to hear Wembley71's take on this, given their commendable success in Bristol.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Perhaps. I'd be interested to hear Wembley71's take on this, given their commendable success in Bristol.'"
It is about creating an EVENT......whilst purist fans of any game will moan about dumbing down, I suspect the total attendance for the opener and semis will be 130,000 and you can't tell me that the 4 games stand alone would have drawn that many.......Italy Wales 10k.....2nd semi with Aussies flogging someone 15 at a stretch and a couple of 30k's for the games featuring england
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| I think the last deal on the 4 nations the BBC made a decent offer and the RFL wanted to take it. But I think SKY tied their hands by significantly dropping the value they would offer on SL if they did not get the Internationals.
That was my understanding of it.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I think the last deal on the 4 nations the BBC made a decent offer and the RFL wanted to take it. But I think SKY tied their hands by significantly dropping the value they would offer on SL if they did not get the Internationals.
That was my understanding of it.'"
Risky game to play when you mess with sky.......don't lose sight of the fact of who props the game up in the uk before you start planning for anything. Even the NRL have to give concessions
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| Quote ="gutterfax"It's not often you are right my pseudo French buddy, but I think on this occasion you deserve a gold star sticker for stating the loving obvious. The NRL gets $200 mil a year for about 425 televised games a year.......the Rahs of the 6 nations get 1/3 of that each year for 15 games............'"
What the bbc paid for 6nations makes little commercial sense when you consider they could smash the 6 nations 30mill total viewing figure by buying the rights to SL for a fair bit less, show a fri night game on bbc2, live Saturday game, live Sunday game on BBC and easily get more than 30mill viewing audience as well as a hell of a lot more programming. Given bbc don't get a return on sports programming through advertising or subscriptions the amount they pay for 6nations is ridiculous.
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| 14137 at saints tonight, another very good crowd in appalling conditions
england v ireland listed as 24375, a stadium record for sport
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