Good for F.C. though.

Without doubt.
What could possibly go wrong?

I'm a Leeds United fan y'know?

Guess youth development doesn't matter any more. I mean why invest in your own players when you can steal them from other clubs who actually follow the ideals of licensing, hey?

Well said sir. I must admit, if I were a cas fan I'd be more than peeved at Hull Fc. They rape and pillage your club and all you hear in return is..... Cas are our second supported club ya'know! I wonder why???. And your right about their youth ranks, they got no-one coming through after crooks. And who have they brought through since Houghton? A guy from featherstone called briscoe. The rest they have arnt super league standard. Pi55 poor for a club their size!

Have to laugh at the last two posts. Considering the better players at there respective clubs came through there own Academy systems.



Hull have being neglected for years by Kath Hetherington and co, resulting in poor training facilities and a lack of top coaching staff. Add to the fact Richard Agar was the head coach and you already have a recipe for disaster. This neglecting has meant that almost 95% of our youngsters who have come through the ranks never make SL level and end up playing championship before ending up at West Hull.

This is something Pearson noticed after a few days as owner of the club and with immediate effect changed the whole backroom staff and changed training facilities to a state of the art set up. We have already this season given full time deals to several of younger players who could be saved and have heavily invested in under 15's and 16's. With some of them being paid for by Pearson to go to Australian schools to learn there trade (the same schools the likes of Chase and Marshall came from).

The problem we have is we won't see the success of all this investment for about 4 to 5 seasons so obviously we have to sign plug gap players during that time. Pearson has spent a lot of money and he is entitled to want to be successful because that is what puts bums on seats. Pearson won't enjoy the spending, in fact he will hate it being the financial man that he is. However he is willing to invest to see a return and by signing top quality players he will get that.

Maybe instead of pointing the fingers at our club for pinching your players why don't you point the finger at your own for failing to keep them. Chase didn't want out overnight, they were plenty of promises Castleford have broken to him.

Eh? What point are you trying to make with this?

Really? Perhaps you could enlighten us as to the "promises" Castleford made to Chase that they have broken? Unless of course they promised him that he could be the one player to break club rules by going out and getting paraletic before a match?
As much as I love watching Chase as a player, less than a year ago he said that he felt like Castleford was his home, and he wanted to repay the club and fans for the support they had given him. Now he wants out. A bit like declaring his passion for NZ a matter of months before deciding to play for England, he is to loyalty what Ann Widdicome is to modelling.

Chase who many would say is your best player didn't come from your academy and somehow just walked into the number six shirt. Surely you must have signed him from another club ahead of one of your own youngsters ?

They gave him a four year deal and said they wanted to build a successful team around him, then signed nobody. They appointed a coach who wants to completely change the way he plays for the worse. They also guaranteed movement on the stadium front to give him a piece of mind to sign a four year deal and not surprisingly that has stalled and with news of Wakefields go ahead could mean Cas could wait even longer. Rangi is rumored to now be a father so maybe his loyalty has slightly changed in life and thinks a move away from Castleford would be better for his career and family.

I mean your not exactly the most appealing of clubs to sign for and neither are we, so that must say a lot that he would rather move to us.

Chase was signed as a relative unknown from St George-Illawara.
I think you are barking up the wrong tree if you are trying to have a dig at Castleford's youth development, particularly as you have raided us for Westerman and Arundle. And let's not forget where your current captain was developed. And indeed the fact you managed to sign your best payer of the last few years (Manu) after we brought him over from Australia as a bit of a wildcard. In fact, there must be almost as many Castleford trained players in your squad as Hull ones?
Add to this other Castleford trained players in SL and the number still playing at the club (far more than Hull) and your comment just makes you look daft.

He actually said that we will continue to [iinvest[/i until we win something. You've added the last bit yourself to twist the meaning. He's ploughing money into facilities, coaching, and youth development alongside spending on players - basically reversing years of [iunder[/i-investment by the previous owners.

Only in RL could someone willing to plough money into a club be demonised.

The most ironic post of the year!!! A Hull Fc fan slagging off Castlefords player development! Gotta laugh!! They had the pick of all the young hull lads for 10 years, before rovers got into super league. But it's Kaths and Agars fault! Smell what your shovelling.

No it really doesn't, I mean if you bothered to read my first post you will see I explain the current state of Hulls youth system. The point I am getting at (which again you appear to miss) is that you have called Hull for signing other teams players yet your club has done the same. As for Westerman he went to Cas from Hull.

So the only person barking up the wrong tree here is you as I have never claimed our youth set up is better. I just merely pointed out that yours is not perfect, I mean you wouldn't be were you are or were you have being the last ten years if it was so brilliant. Granted you have lost a few or your better academy players but that brings me back to a point earlier, they must be something your club is doing to put these players off staying.

I'm sorry - I didn't realise that AP had the ability to force other clubs to sell contracted players. How very dare he offer them a large sum of cash and then force them to accept it? It must be hell for the poor dears.

Maybe you should be asking why your club is willing to flog off the family silver rather than pointing a finger and a trembly lip at the big bad man from the East. Could it possibly be because they've been offered a fair price?

Are you for real??!!! Or just another typical Dull fan!!

You Rovers fans shouldn't be allowed on PC's if you can't read. As I say I wasn't making out they were bad just pointing out that Castleford even sign other teams players ahead of there own younger players. I chose to point this out after a Castleford fan had a dig at Hull for not using one of our own players. This wasn't a dig just pointing out a fact.

Where have I criticised Hull for signing players from other teams? Every team has to, nobody can produce all of their own players. Not once have I written than what Hull are doing is wrong. However, it is wrong to have a dig at Cas' youth development which has produced its fair share of SL players, including some of your best players.

You use way too many question marks and exclamation marks for me to even bother to have the energy to talk to you.

That and I personally feel you just want an argument rather then a debate. When I pass the park one day , I may continue this conversation.

Not you personally, my post was in response to a post made by a Cas fan prevoiusly. The point I was making was not that Castlefords youth system is poor , more the fact that Cas themselves favor signing other teams players rather then blooding there own at times too.

You really didn't produce our best players either.

Sorry Kosh but he is talking like he is billy big testicles.
He has been in the sport about 6 months? and so far he has all but told the RFL how to run the sport and pretty much stated that he is going to buy FC to the top of the sport.

Why, don't you like to have a debate about how e your youth set up is, and why you have to buy a new team every year? Or don't you like that question???????

It's interesting that you seem to know the details of Chase's contract discussions. Can you do me a favour and provide some specific evidence that Cas "guaranteed movement on the stadium front", or have you just made this up?
It's also worth pointing out that Millward was the coach when Chase signed his extension, and Chase looked very happy to do so on the photograph of them together when this was announced. Watching the team every week, I could criticise Millward plently, but he has not changed the way Chase plays. In fact he seems to have given him more freedom (I think the word 'structure' is alien to Millward), and has the most try assists in SL despite missing about 6 games.

I think you'll find that the intention is that Castleford are trying to build a homegrown team and supplementing them from teams from other sides. Indeed, most of the younger players we've signed are ones that haven't been given a fair crack or been released by their respective club, i.e. Emmitt. Next season, we'll have Owen, Shenton, Clark, Huby, Walker, Milner, Holmes, Massey, Thompson, Clare, Atkinson, Brierley, Johnston, Martin and Dan Fleming all in the first team squad and training full-time. All of which have come through the Cas academy. 15 players isn't bad going is it? 12 of which have come through in the licensing period.

The only reason we can't retain them is a) facilities b) pressures from licensing and c) money from other clubs (along with ambition/trophies).

Or maybe he trying to distance himself as much as he can from the previous regime at Hull. Pearson isn't interested in what the rest of the RL world think, only what his own teams supporters are.

Pearson has ideas he wants to share with the RFL and stuff he disagrees with. He won't be the only with such views.

Shows how little you know about Cas.

15 Cas home-grown players in squad this year, 16 if you count Ferres who is from Cas. If not, 16 not come from Cas. An equilibrium.

And if it's that poor, why have we had offers for Daryl Clark and why have Shenton, Arundel, Westerman all left.