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| It could be argued that the more 'sexist attitude' is the damning / abuse of any comments about her looks / ability / appearance when this is a RL forum absolutely full of that stuff on nearly every thread regarding players / staff and officials
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| Quote ="J20"It could be argued that the more 'sexist attitude' is the damning / abuse of any comments about her looks / ability / appearance when this is a RL forum absolutely full of that stuff on nearly every thread regarding players / staff and officials
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So criticism of sexism is more sexist than sexism. Interesting concept that.
I think I get the point you're trying to make though. 'Cheap-shot' humour abounds on most message boards. Some of it can be quite amusing but most of it is... well...cheap.
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| there seems to be a definite sense of humour implosion on this thread. we (most of us anyway) are fully functioning adults and dont need The Thought/Humour or indeed blanket, knee jerk offence police to tell us what is and is not offensive in general terms.
granted, repeated quips about her voice have all been done to death long before this thread came along, and if thats all certain people have to say then they should be frowned upon. However, the response generally has been positive, indeed extremely positive with regards her appointment. Yes, i have branded her a 'MILF' but also commented on her professionalism. I happen to think she is attractive in her own way, some may disagree with the use of 'Milf' but i fail to see how in any way it is derogatory in any real sense. And no amount of philosophising on the nature of offence, or trying to make some academic, conceptual leap to racism will change that.
Storm in a tea cup.
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| I said "I would" because guess what, i would.
I don't give a stuff what anyone thinks of that or if they link me to the third reich for saying it.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I said "I would" because guess what, i would.
I don't give a stuff what anyone thinks of that or if they link me to the third reich for saying it.'"
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| I think the part if the thread people take offense to is implying she might be a man.
Saying she is good or bad at her job is just opinion.
Saying she is a Milf is not bad particularly, but I doubt anyone would like someone to suggest you were actually more like the opposite sex than you say you are.
I don't know what is difficult to understand about that.
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| our tanya is a goddess and i for one will never miss an episode of the superleague show again
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| Quote ="joanne callotte"Just for the record, i think shes an excellent broadcaster, and covers our game with great professionalism.'"
Really? Then how do you think she would feel if you had made your jibe in her hearing?
Quote ="joanne callotte"JMy comment had a "wink" attached, you're obviously not that observant,
and it was only a bit of light hearted humour.
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Crass remarks aren't improved by a smiley. "Light hearted"? So, you wouldn't be embarrassed at all to make the same "joke" if she could hear you?
All I am saying is that if you think that's "light hearted humour" then your attitudes need some deconstruction for the 21st century. It isn't funny. Whether you think about it and take the hint, or not, is up to you.
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| Anyway, FWIW, IMO:
Capable?
Good at job?
Attractive?
Personality?
Figure?
Likes RL?
Available?
Oh well, ticks all the boxes except the one that matters...
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| The type of woman a rugby mad man would love to have, my wife isn't really interested in rugby
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Really? Then how do you think she would feel if you had made your jibe in her hearing?
Crass remarks aren't improved by a smiley. "Light hearted"? So, you wouldn't be embarrassed at all to make the same "joke" if she could hear you?
All I am saying is that if you think that's "light hearted humour" then your attitudes need some deconstruction for the 21st century. It isn't funny. Whether you think about it and take the hint, or not, is up to you.'"
I think you know 99% of people wouldn't shout anything at her in earshot. Some may say 'It makes no difference' though in my mind it certainly would.
We can only guess you have never shouted an expletive at an opposistion player? Or as a Bulls fan even your own?
Quote ="Horatio Yed"The type of woman a rugby mad man would love to have, my wife isn't really interested in rugby
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Couldn't think of anything worse personally
Quote ="Horatio Yed"I said "I would" because guess what, i would.
I don't give a stuff what anyone thinks of that or if they link me to the third reich for saying it.'"
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| Quote ="J20"Couldn't think of anything worse personally
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Same here - RL is a form of respite; I wouldn't want the bread knife turning up and ruining that as well.
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| Quote ="J20"I think you know 99% of people wouldn't shout anything at her in earshot. Some may say 'It makes no difference' though in my mind it certainly would.
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Then we may be getting somewhere. Saying it in earshot is the point. If you wouldn't say it to someone's face, then maybe in truth you already know you shouldn't be saying it. And if you would only say it behind their back, then you are a hypocrite as well. I'm not having a go, I'm challenging attitudes. I go by the general rule that, if I'd be mortified and embarrassed if Y knew I'd said X, then I reckon there's a reason why X is inappropriate, and I'd try to figure out why.
In your case, the problem to me is that you think your remark was amusing. In fact, it was demeaning and insulting, as well as totally unfunny. Maybe you'll come to realise that if you think about it. Or maybe you won't. That is all.
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| If i was single and i knew she was i'd ask her out for a drink
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Then we may be getting somewhere........'"
Yeah, too far up our own ar5es in many cases.
FFS, it was an off the cuff remark that are often enough made in jest in an attempt to look clever.......they fail in most cases, but it doesn't warrant 12 pages of trial by soap box.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Yeah, too far up our own ar5es in many cases.'"
I couldn't agree more.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Yeah, too far up our own ar5es in many cases.
FFS, it was an off the cuff remark that are often enough made in jest in an attempt to look clever.......they fail in most cases, but it doesn't warrant 12 pages of trial by soap box.
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WhoTF is "on trial"? And who are you to rule on what warrants discussion? I'll explain what I want, to who I want, thanks. But if I don't point out that the attempt failed, and the OP succeeded only in making himself look stupid rather than clever, then he'd never know. Can't speak for others, but I'm doing him a favour.
It does take a peculiar type of pig-headedness to complain about adding more and more posts to a thread, by . . . guess what . . . adding another post to the thread. But presumably you couldn't work out that by adding to the thread, you did exactly that which you're criticising others for doing.
Or maybe you are so up [iyour[/i own arrse that you genuinely believe you have the sole valid opinion, and anyone disagreeing is by your definition wrong and should shut up. Yeh, I reckon that's it.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"
Or maybe you are so up [iyour[/i own arrse that you genuinely believe you have the sole valid opinion, and anyone disagreeing is by your definition wrong and should shut up. Yeh, I reckon that's it.'"
This is an internet forum and as such, differing opinions are the fuel that keeps it going. I have no cause to demand anyone adhere to my stance on any subject, but your continued need to post your rhetoric in this thread with regard to racism, sexism and your belief of how terrible it is to make fun of somone else is, to say the least, smacking of Internet Fascism.
In the imortal words of the Legend that is John Cooper Clarke...
"I can't hear you mate....your mouths full of "
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| Anyway. I think she's well fit, innit.
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| Quote ="richardviking"Much prefer her to Angela 'danger' Powers, on a more serious note.'"
Why 'danger' ?
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| Quote ="miscreant"Why 'danger' ?'"
Perhaps referring to her brother Austin?
Yeah baby! It's shaggalicious, etc etc.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"This is an internet forum and as such, differing opinions are the fuel that keeps it going. '"
Indeed. As someone once said:
INSTRUCTIONS FOR CAUSING AN ARGUMENT:
1. Post an opinion on an intenet forum
2. Er, that's it
But did anyone suggest different?
Quote ="gutterfax"I have no cause to demand anyone adhere to my stance on any subject, but your continued need to post your rhetoric in this thread with regard to racism, sexism and your belief of how terrible it is to make fun of somone else is, to say the least, smacking of Internet Fascism.
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That's idiotic, and I can't put it any kinder. Whether or not one would "have a really good fumble first, just in case........" as a precaution prior to sex with Tanya Arnold, because she has a deep voice and therefore may have male genitalia, is not a "subject" on which one can have a valid "stance", it's just crass inappropriate would-be humour, of exactly the kid that got Keys and Gray sacked. I presume from your post that you think Gray and Keys are just as entitled to hold those attitudes as in your view they are valid, then?
As for fascism, ffs grow up. I already said, he can listen, or not, the point was made, and it's now just numpties who haven't the balls to challenge inappropriate views, ironically for fear of causing offence, that I seem to be dealing with. I don't "need" to post anything, The other point that you seemingly miss is, since my earlier reply to the OP, every post I've made has been a [ireply[/i to a post aimed in my direction. Like this one is to yours. Was it fascists who sacked Gray and keys? It was, after all, a private conversation?
It isn't "terrible to 'make fun' of someone else" and nobody said it was. Context is key, as is the issue of whether it is actually fun, or something else, as was that, and as is this.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"This is an internet forum and as such, differing opinions are the fuel that keeps it going. I have no cause to demand anyone adhere to my stance on any subject, but your continued need to post your rhetoric in this thread with regard to racism, sexism and your belief of how terrible it is to make fun of somone else is, to say the least, smacking of Internet Fascism.
In the imortal words of the Legend that is John Cooper Clarke...
"I can't hear you mate....your mouths full of poop"'"
And another one who equates two of the 'isms' most associated with fascism as a form of fascism.
...and your use of JCC to embellish your point is pretty hilarious too. The guy's performed at Rock against Racism gigs, posting exactly the kind of rhetoric you rail against, for over 30 years.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"it's just crass inappropriate would-be humour, of exactly the kid that got Keys and Gray sacked. I presume from your post that you think Gray and Keys are just as entitled to hold those attitudes as in your view they are valid, then? '"
The two people you mention were perfectly entitled to hold the opinions that got them into trouble.......the problem for them is that they didn't keep those opinions to themselves.
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Like this one is to yours. Was it fascists who sacked Gray and keys? It was, after all, a private conversation?'"
No...they got themselves sacked, pure and simple. The OP and other jokers on here are not paid to represent a multi billion pound media organisation......
Opinion are like ar5eholes, we've all got one and even if somebody has a standpoint that I don't agree with, I won't berrate them for it.
Quote ="Winter is Coming"its all gone a bit Pete Tong.'"
It would seem so...
Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"...and your use of JCC to embellish your point is pretty hilarious too.'"
as for you mate....you're like a nightclub in the morning....
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