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| Quote ="Dettoriman"I'm a shareholder in a racehorse, Albeit a very good one.
We do it for the love of it, As it happens, The prize money always covers the costs, But we were fortunate. At the time of purchasing this, We purchased another, Who ran 3 times and was retired. But we invested for the love of the sport. Yes'" My mate who i go drinking with is a shareholder in one it costs him penny you think nicholls,o'neil and twisten davis do it for the love of the sport?
NO they would be losing cash left right and like wakey
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| Quote ="king warrior"My mate who i go drinking with is a shareholder in one it costs him penny you think nicholls,o'neil and twisten davis do it for the love of the sport?
NO they would be losing cash left right and Centre like wakey'"
Good job barely anyone on this forum takes you seriously isnt it?
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| Quote ="king warrior"My mate who i go drinking with is a shareholder in one it costs him penny you think nicholls,o'neil and twisten davis do it for the love of the sport?
[uNO they would be losing cash left right and Centre like wakey[/u'"
Bit of a contradiction in terms there pal, how can you be losing cash left right and centre when you do not have any in the first place, I think its called an oximoron, but please be assured it is not an insult towards you
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| Quote ="dickie mint"Bit of a contradiction in terms there pal, how can you be losing cash left right and centre when you do not have any in the first place, I think its called an oximoron, but please be assured it is not an insult towards you
'" I didn't explian proper if you buy a horse what couldn't beat a dog it would bleed money left right and
If an owner isn't making anything off a horse it goes simple to say people do it just for the love of the sport is stupid they want to make money not blow it
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| Quote ="king warrior"I didn't explian proper if you buy a horse what couldn't beat a dog it would bleed money left right and Centre
If an owner isn't making anything off a horse it goes simple to say people do it just for the love of the sport is stupid they want to make money not blow it'"
And your point is what exactly? My response to you was about my perception of you making a sarcastic comment re our finances, Thanks for your frank views on our relegation at the end of 2011 btw, Its good you along with a lot of other people find it hilarious, and if it does happen I'm sure we will strive to do our upmost in the championship. And fwiw good luck to Wigan and their knowledgable fans (well most of them are anyway) in the coming season.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Nah, he's just bitter because he tried and failed at Leigh...
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Not bitter at all , did I/we fail ? , well we made SL , so a pass , could we maintain it ? , no , so that was a fail , was I willing to lose my business/house/family for my RL club ?, no , so is that a pass or a fail ? you tell me
Did I set up and fund an award winning community dept that is still running ? , yes , so that is a pass
Would I do it all again if I had the same situation ? , no
So bitter ? , no , just better informed and experienced
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| Quote ="dickie mint"And your point is what exactly? My response to you was about my perception of you making a sarcastic comment re our finances, Thanks for your frank views on our relegation at the end of 2011 btw, Its good you along with a lot of other people find it hilarious, and if it does happen I'm sure we will strive to do our upmost in the championship. And fwiw good luck to Wigan and their knowledgable fans (well most of them are anyway) in the coming season.'" Well it was more aimed at your fan with the worthless posts
I dont find it hilarious dont forget we nearly went down the other season (in before cheats jibes) it hurts but for the good of the club you got to rebuild, the thing i dont like about it all was the lies which was way out of line on your clubs behalf not just to everyone but to you lot
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not bitter at all , did I/we fail ? , well we made SL , so a pass , could we maintain it ? , no , so that was a fail , was I willing to lose my business/house/family for my RL club ?, no , so is that a pass or a fail ? you tell me
Did I set up and fund an award winning community dept that is still running ? , yes , so that is a pass
Would I do it all again if I had the same situation ? , no
So bitter ? , no , just better informed and experienced
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The on the end of my post obviously wasn't tongue-in-cheek enough for you eh...?
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| Quote ="Wheels"The
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It still needed an answer , for others who might have seen it differently
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| Quote ="king warrior"Well it was more aimed at your fan with the worthless posts
I dont find it hilarious dont forget we nearly went down the other season (in before cheats jibes) it hurts but for the good of the club you got to rebuild, [uthe thing i dont like about it all was the lies which was way out of line on your clubs behalf not just to everyone but to you lot[/u'"
Not being funny mate, but how do you think we feel about being lied to and the rest of the unsavoury business, still we would not be who we are if things ever went right for us fans
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| Quote ="LewisJ23"I aren't a Wakie fan mate (Cas) I just think laughing at a team and kicking them while they're down is wrong. You wanna watch what you say in future because it might just come back to bite you in the ar**.'"
Who's laughing I was simply stating well known fact I think it's disgusting a traditional club is left to die while a team in France and wales has money thrown at them in the name of "expansion" but I certainly wasn't making a joke as you seem to forget my teams been in the same situation and it's not nice sorry if I have offended anyone but it wasn't aimed at laughing at them
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Perversely, depending on who ends up taking over the club, this action could mean the club have a much better chance of getting a new license than if admin was staved off.'"
Didn't work for Widnes, why would it work out that way this time?
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| Quote ="hullkrforever" I was simply stating well known fact I think it's disgusting a traditional club is left to die while a team in France and wales has money thrown at them'"
Sorry, but "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ".
Yes, tragic that Wakey are in such a bad state, wouldn't wish that on any SL club. But you don't need to make stuff up either, just put your tin hat back on and get back to rocking back and forth in the corner.
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| Quote ="belgianxiii"Sorry, but "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ".
Yes, tragic that Wakey are in such a bad state, wouldn't wish that on any SL club. But you don't need to make stuff up either, just put your tin hat back on and get back to rocking back and forth in the corner.'"
Ok then what am I making up as you say ??
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| Quote ="hullkrforever"Ok then what am I making up as you say ??'"
catalans with minimal travelling support have better crowds than wakey do, despite having all the advantages of being so close for SL clubs
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| Quote ="dally messenger"www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/11/02/02/RUGBYL_Wakefield.html&BID=480
has this been posted thats actually positive
it wont save them now but they could easily do a widnes in the championship for the next round of licenses.'"
positive... not until the deal is done... we wakefield fans are a little cautious about good news...... Glover in an interesting courtier ( and a long time fan of the club)... however there is a rumoured consortium lurking in the shadows, a group that have a big interest in the stadium development at Newmarket and for more than one reason... (indeed... some quarters say the deal has already been done, but is waiting the seal of approval from the administrator) a consortium that would have the RFL's collective mouths salivating with anticipation at their involvement in Superleague... and if the deal is to believed then to have them in a lower league would be a MASSIVE wasted business opportunity for Rugby League!
however, as I said, we wakefield fans have learned to be only cautiously optimistic
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| I have a question regarding several clubs entering administration in the last couple of seasons. IIRC when the likes of Doncaster and Widnes entered administration (2007 I believe) all of their players were released from their contracts and free to talk to other clubs, can anyone clear up when this rule changed?
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| when it suited the RFL? I guess if players are still being their full contract entitlements then there is no need to rip them up. I would imagine it is only if contracts can;t be homoured by the administrators they become null and void.
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| Quote ="fiish"I have a question regarding several clubs entering administration in the last couple of seasons. IIRC when the likes of Doncaster and Widnes entered administration (2007 I believe) all of their players were released from their contracts and free to talk to other clubs, can anyone clear up when this rule changed?'"
It was never a rule, Widnes and Doncaster were reformed as entirely new companies, therefore all their players had to be signed to contracts with the new business. If the RFL wanted to be pedantic, they could have relegated both clubs to the lowest level of the game and made them start from scratch as they were, in practice, brand new clubs.
Wakefield have entered administration, this doesn't dissolve the current business, and as such, the players remain under contract.
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| I thought that if you entered administration then you had no choice by law than to start again as an entire new company with a new director so I partly disagree with your post. However I do think that my question has been answered by JB and yourself as the players must still be being paid by the company currently being run by the administrator and will then sign new contracts with the new company once it is formed. This must be a good sign for Wakefield as it appears that their situation is not as bad as that of Doncaster or Widnes a few years ago.
Hopefully the new regime (whoever they may be) will be able to put an infrastructure in place that will enable Wakefield to come back stronger than before in a similar way to what appears to have happened at Widnes.
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| Reading the press, there is no administrator appointed yet, although they have asked the court to appoint O'Haras.
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Quote However, Rimmer admitted that Wakefield's hopes of obtaining a new Super League licence could be damaged by their financial plight.
Three-year licences that take effect from 2012 will be handed out in March, with clubs from the Championship guaranteed to be handed a place in the top flight.
"We have to be realistic," said Rimmer. "There is a weighting system attached to acts of insolvency. There are other aspects to licensing but certainly it is a consideration."
Rimmer also confirmed that the Wildcats will be deducted up to six Super League points for entering administration. '"
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I think Wakefield have had the final nail in their SL coffin unfortunatly.
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Quote However, Rimmer admitted that Wakefield's hopes of obtaining a new Super League licence could be damaged by their financial plight.
Three-year licences that take effect from 2012 will be handed out in March, with clubs from the Championship guaranteed to be handed a place in the top flight.
"We have to be realistic," said Rimmer. "There is a weighting system attached to acts of insolvency. There are other aspects to licensing but certainly it is a consideration."
Rimmer also confirmed that the Wildcats will be deducted up to six Super League points for entering administration. '"
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I think Wakefield have had the final nail in their SL coffin unfortunatly.
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