Where have I said that?

I think he is a fine player who has already had a fantastic career. I think he's an integral part of our pack and an important factor in uor success.

However, I too think he could have been much more and hope he still will be. He is relatively young for a prop and has far fewer miles on his clock than graham.

I would not mind Baileys wind up stuff if he backed it up with good metres made and a decent work rate on both sides of the ball. Plus a willingness to take on and mix it with some of the big boys. I know Leeds have won a lot with him in the squad, but they could have been even more dominant during that time with a prop that put up better stats. I dont think Bailey has been integral to Leeds success where the likes of Peacock, McG Burrow and Senior have. Bailey is just another squad player. I think Leeds could replace Bailey and not miss anything and probably get better.

Fair point, but you probably won't get anyone in Blue and Amber specs agreeing

Anyone suggesting that Bailey 'got what he deserved' should be ashamed of themselves.

Rugby League is a sport, when all's said and done. If someone wants to behave like a you should still not justify it by knocking seven bells out of someone.

Yes yes yes, i appreciate that people get wound up, but that is still no reason to act like a thug - retaliation or not.

Of course I read the first post, I quoted it in my reply

You specifically stated, "...in fact if we're being brutally honest, perhaps if Radford was black and Bailey white a lot of those sticking up for Radford might have very different opinions..." which explicitly implies that many of the people are using race to base their opinions

My reply, which I stand by, is that this is a slight on the supporters of Rugby League which has a reputation as one of the most inclusive sports in the country and has broken down many racial barriers (i.e. fist black national captain, first black national coach)

Please tell me where I misinterpreted your statement

Yes, I remember Bailey putting Faasavalu on his back. I also remember Bailey going missing for the rest of the game, bricking himself when Graham came back onto the field looking for him.

Oh the hypocrisy, considering YOU were one of the ones laughing at Newtons attack on Long.

I still can't make my mind up whether this is the most sickening thing I've seen from a RL player to be fair, the other contender is Cassidy's elbow to Morley's face.

No I was not. I've never, ever laughed at someone having their face broken, and I've never condoned Newton's actions that day.

Find me some proof and I'm happy to stand corrected, but until you can, I suggest you retract that comment.

Ah now you see that one was perfectly justified (according to most Goons I've seen discussing it on here) because Morley caught Robbie McCormack high earlier in the game.

I'm going to put Shaun Edwards on Bradley Clyde at Wembley up there as well. He knew damn well what he was doing.

Good to see you lot can't help but talk about Wigan even when the thread is about a Leeds and Hull player.

No, we're talking about thuggery.

Surprisingly the discussion came around to Cassidy. Who'da thunk it eh?

So you've gone from 'Bailey-Radford...set aside your prejudices?' to talking about Wigan players.

Now you're just repeating yourself - don't you have some windows you could be licking?

Shocked at this Andy!

It didn't seem to sink in the first time.

Senior on BJ Mather?

Sonny Nickle on Robbie Mears?

That was a baddun. Nickle was actually very well behaved in his 2nd stint at Saints, considering his firey nature during his first. However, that one was a sickener.

Senior on Mather has alway stuck in my mind.

racist! (had to get the thread back on track, after all)

Seriously people, look back from the start of this thread and reread the posts. You will see an incredible amount of biased numpties posting.

Bailey is a cowardly thug who gets away with things, yet the player who repeatedly punches a man lying face down on the floor is considered a hero who should not be sent off.



Seriously, only on RLFANS could you see such childish hypocrisy.

Radford is Super League's "have-a-go hero"!

Don't be daft, colour has nothing to do with it. Not saying that Radford was anything other than stupid, he maybe should have done as Bailey does and got a sneaky un in as third man in the tackle.

Funny how when all these acts of cowardness/brutality/thuggery are recalled none of them were perpertrated by Bailey, what is the worst thing he's done on the field to warrant his reputation as the biggest thug in the game ?

I do love the the reason he never gets banned in that Leeds have the RFL in their pocket line. If Bailey tackles above the waist the knuckle dragging opposition fans go ballistic shouting high, due to the comotion it gets put on report, result no case to answer. Bailey does a high tackle the opposition fans foaming at the mouth with their hatred screaming off, off. Put on report, penalty sufficient.

It really is hilarious a few elbows, knees and sly digs here and there garner such bile and vitriol. Someone mentioned Paul Davidson earlier, a fairly apt comparison, never received the abuse Bailey does, I wonder why.