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| Quote ="dally messenger"what did you guys do to this thread.
that last page was the biggest tripe ive ever read.
some of you lot dont deserve to be RL fans, jeeze you whinge and moan.
SL is going great guns. if you arent happy with it, go and watch soccer'"
You're funny
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| Quote ="dally messenger"SL is going great guns. if you arent happy with it, go and watch soccer'"
I won't sink to your level and your AFL desertion.
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| Quote ="Starbug"You're funny
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almost as funny as being a leigh fan and not attending an international RL game held in your home town hey
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| Quote ="littlerich"I won't sink to your level and your AFL desertion.'"
not bad.
almost makes up for reading all that depressing drivel earlier on.
wah wah, RL used to be so much better, SL they are just boring robots, championship etc etc
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| Quote ="dally messenger"take out the link up with quins and you would have no RL anymore in london.'"
What does that tell you about the areas prospects if the choice is no club or a poorly supported financially draining club that doesn't really have much of a future in its current guise?
If that's the choice in Paris, I'd rather promote someone else. Thanks for helping make my point.
Quote ="dally messenger"ive already answered the second question, shame your reading skills havent improved'"
Have you?
Quote ="dally messenger"its more their location rather than whether they are a union club per se.
the fact they have loads of money doesnt hurt either i guess.
if you want to expand into a tough market, what better way than linking up with a club which is already established there?
we dont have the funds for a paris team on our own, thats for sure'"
I don't see any mention in there about the NRL, or about dropping other plans. You mentioned about what you'd do to expand into a tough market. Not that you'd pick that over expanding into planned market with less glamour but more chance of success.
Just answer the question rather than do your usual "dodging the bullet" style replies which don't get anybody anywhere. If a S14 team from South Africa decided they wanted an NRL team, would you cancel all your expansion plans and let them in over the rest?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"what did you guys do to this thread.
that last page was the biggest tripe ive ever read.
some of you lot dont deserve to be RL fans, jeeze you whinge and moan.
SL is going great guns. if you arent happy with it, go and watch soccer'"
Think your a bit out of order there Dally,the likes of Halifax,Widnes,Leigh have got a lot of history in RL and they have as much right as anyone else to have an opinion and to go and tell them to watch soccer is very arrogant.
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| It's true though.
I do enjoy watching RL at all levels and my post earlier was a bit cheeky more than anything but Chp standard rugby is not as entertaining as SL. People say it's more free flowing but i'd rather (as should most people) watch structured attack and defense anyday over the chp who, lets be honest, are just turning into poor SL clones as every year goes by in an atmosphereless cesspit.
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| Quote ="Dico"It's true though.
I do enjoy watching RL at all levels and my post earlier was a bit cheeky more than anything but Chp standard rugby is not as entertaining as SL. People say it's more free flowing but i'd rather (as should most people) watch structured attack and defense anyday over the chp who, lets be honest, are just turning into poor SL clones as every year goes by in an atmosphereless cesspit.'"
I didn't see much of a structured defence from Hull KR last night.
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| It was a poor game, Hull KR are a very average team and it doesn't exactly back up my argument.
Until you watch a game like Wigan/Wire et al
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"What does that tell you about the areas prospects if the choice is no club or a poorly supported financially draining club that doesn't really have much of a future in its current guise?
If that's the choice in Paris, I'd rather promote someone else. Thanks for helping make my point.
Have you?
I don't see any mention in there about the NRL, or about dropping other plans. You mentioned about what you'd do to expand into a tough market. Not that you'd pick that over expanding into planned market with less glamour but more chance of success.
Just answer the question rather than do your usual "dodging the bullet" style replies which don't get anybody anywhere. If a S14 team from South Africa decided they wanted an NRL team, would you cancel all your expansion plans and let them in over the rest?'"
just for you wellesey because you cant read, i would support a SA NRL license but not at the cost of our planned expansion, which is exactly what ive argued here, but you are too thick to work out.
its like having teeth pulled out i tell you
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| Quote ="littlerich"I didn't see much of a structured defence from Hull KR last night.'"
hey if someone misses a tackle in the championship, is that richard lewis' fault?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"hey if someone misses a tackle in the championship, is that richard lewis' fault?
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God you're so tiresome.
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| Quote ="Dico"It was a poor game, Hull KR are a very average team and it doesn't exactly back up my argument.
Until you watch a game like Wigan/Wire et al'"
I'm on board with what you're saying. Obviously SL is a higher standard and class of RL to the lower leagues. That doesn't mean that some people should be castigated for preferring to watch the lower leagues though. Quite frankly, i love my Sundays and i get a massive amount of enjoyment from what my club offer on the pitch. I also enjoy watching SL on TV.
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| Quote ="Dico"It's true though.
I do enjoy watching RL at all levels and my post earlier was a bit cheeky more than anything but Chp standard rugby is not as entertaining as SL. People say it's more free flowing but i'd rather (as should most people) watch structured attack and defense anyday over the chp who, lets be honest, are just turning into poor SL clones as every year goes by in an atmosphereless cesspit.'"
Tell you what, go to a live Championship game as I can't think of a single one that is an "atmosphereless cesspit". I've seen some bloody crackin' games in this league so far this year.
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| This years championships been cracking matt, youre right. I havnt enjoyed my rugby this much for years. I wonder how much championship rugby the people who slam it watch.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"almost as funny as being a leigh fan and not attending an international RL game held in your home town hey'"
So you have been paying attention after all , But dont think you'll draw me into a duscussion about a match that will be a one sided blow out contested by players I have little interest in
I did however attend the NC GF at Widnes yesterday between the top 2 amatuer sides in the UK , A good honest game of RL
You're still funny , but I must congratulate you on being to draw so many people into your crazy arguments when it is quite plain you havent a clue what you are talking about
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| Leigh fans in enjoying the season they're winning every week shocker
There hasn't been one game on tv thats come across with any atmosphere, maybe Leigh/Barrow at the start of the year
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| Quote ="Dico"Leigh fans in enjoying the season they're winning every week shocker
There hasn't been one game on tv thats come across with any atmosphere, maybe Leigh/Barrow at the start of the year'"
Nowt to do with Leigh winning, I've been to Halifax-Sheffield, Widnes-Fev and Halifax-Barrow and they were all very good games with a decent atmosphere.
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| Quote ="Dico"Leigh fans in enjoying the season they're winning every week shocker
There hasn't been one game on tv thats come across with any atmosphere, maybe Leigh/Barrow at the start of the year'"
Leyther Matt is a proper Rugby League fan. He watches other teams as a neutral with alarming regularity. He was due to come and watch Fax v Batley but when we screwed that up he went to watch the Crusaders instead. Maybe he should stay at home and watch it on telly instead eh?
(If my memory is lacking - it may have been another Leigh fan - Frank B? The point still stands though).
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| Superleague in Paris failed last time. Apart from Stade looking at Quins Union/League set up and seeing a 52 week opportunity, there is no other tangible reason to transplant a team into Paris again.
There are many on here who will vouch if Tooloose (sic) are ready for SL....but I would suspect not given they are not looking like winning anything between now and Licence time. There crowds are fairly good for CH footie, but it may take them another 3 years to get a decent financial pitch together. If Tooloose get in ahead of Widnes this time it will make a mockery of the RFL's conditions of entry.
Back to Stade........IF they are serious, then they should request entry into the Championship and see how they go for 3 years.....but transplanting teams into non League areas is a long term strategy that Superleague doesn't need to repeat just yet. Paris failed last time, Gateshead and Cumbria weren't a success either and depending on who you talk to, the jury's still out on London.
I have no doubt that if run properly and started from the Championship, a parisian League team will be ready for SL in 5 or 6 years....juat not yet.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"but transplanting teams into non League areas is a long term strategy that Superleague doesn't need to repeat just yet. Paris failed last time, Gateshead and Cumbria weren't a success either and depending on who you talk to, the jury's still out on London.
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Firstly, when did Cumbria become a non League area ??
Secondly, Workington are the only Cumbrian team to have played in Super League and that was way back in 1996. Although they were relegated after just 1 season (relegation....remember that ??), you can hardly tar Cumbrian RL with that brush 14 years later !
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| Quote ="dally messenger"just for you wellesey because you cant read, i would support a SA NRL license but not at the cost of our planned expansion, which is exactly what ive argued here, but you are too thick to work out.
its like having teeth pulled out i tell you'"
I can't read? My username is on the same screen, and you can't read it properly to type it back... But OK!
Anyways, ignoring the pettiness, you have basically proved hypercritical again when it comes to what SL should do and what the NRL should do. When it comes to putting in Paris (an area with no league interest, but a union club willing to fund it) ahead of Toulouse (planned expansion), you say "if you want to expand into a tough market, what better way than linking up with a club which is already established there?"
But when it comes to a similar situation in the NRL , you say "I would support a SA NRL license but not at the cost of our planned expansion".
Now, either you're a hypocrite, or you're just not very good at talking. Because last time I checked, you was arguing that there isn't a better way to expand into a tough market than linking up with another club already there; but now you're arguing that you would support planned expansion over this?
You can't argue for both/ It's either one or the other. If you could make up your mind, people might understand what the hell you're going on about!
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| you are too hypercritical there wellsey
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| Quote ="SRC"Firstly, when did Cumbria become a non League area ??'"
when less than 1,200 turned up to a game and the team were cr4p...because the region wouldn't buy into the whole SL thing....
Quote ="SRC"Secondly, Workington are the only Cumbrian team to have played in Super League and that was way back in 1996. Although they were relegated after just 1 season (relegation....remember that ??), you can hardly tar Cumbrian RL with that brush 14 years later !'"
...why? Are you saying a ("n" individual )cumbrian team would manage better gates? Sorry, but lower crowds than PSG, a worse team and the infighting that went on then doesn't bode well for a new Cumbrian SL side.....Better get yourselves sorted regarding where you will be based, what you will be called and how your fans will get to home games before spitting your dummy out. I know quins fans who travel 50+ miles to home games....but at kleast they can have a snooze on the tube on the way home....cumbrian fans would need to drive, therefore not drink AT ALL and wouldn't be back every week....simple as.
Not knocking Cumbria, just pointing out the bare financial reality that comes with a team representing a small country's worth of landfall.....
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| Quote ="dally messenger"you are too hypercritical there wellsey'"
Do you even know what hypercritical means?
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