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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"
England RU will play 6-10 games a year in front of crowds >70k that excludes any major club games that is one of the reasons the players convert from RL to RU because RL simply cannot offer anything like that anywhere in the world the same goes for Australia and NZ - I don't see many top RU players converting to the greatest game either!!!'"
Have a word with yourself.....
Do you think former Leeds Rhino's Star Lee Smith signed for Wasps Rugby union to play infront of "massive Union Crowds" ?
or do you think when he finds himself playing on a muddy $hithole on a freezing February afternoon in front of possibly a max capacity of 10,000 fans wooooww... he'll console himself counting his considerable rise in Salary from switching from the 1.6million pound Salary capped Rugby League to the 4 million pound salary capped english rugby union....
I lie awake at night wondering Why Johnny wilkinson is dicking around in French Rugby union with clubs with Wage bills from 12 million to 20 million quid.... I think Johnny come on lad play rugby League get yourself smashed to bits and earn 60 grand a year instead of 600,000......
oh aye its all about the crowd figures this code switching......
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| Quote ="EA"On the threads that you post on and Dally doesn't, he adds more to them than you do.
You are negative value.'"
FMD thats funny
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Have a word with yourself.....
Do you think former Leeds Rhino's Star Lee Smith signed for Wasps Rugby union to play infront of "massive Union Crowds" ?
or do you think when he finds himself playing on a muddy $hithole on a freezing February afternoon in front of possibly a max capacity of 10,000 fans wooooww... he'll console himself counting his considerable rise in Salary from switching from the 1.6million pound Salary capped Rugby League to the 4 million pound salary capped english rugby union....
I lie awake at night wondering Why Johnny wilkinson is dicking around in French Rugby union with clubs with Wage bills from 12 million to 20 million quid.... I think Johnny come on lad play rugby League get yourself smashed to bits and earn 60 grand a year instead of 600,000......
oh aye its all about the crowd figures this code switching......'"
mate if SL gets its act together youll pass union as a sport
SL has shown massive growth since inception and clubs like yours are what are driving it forwards, with new grounds, larger crowds etc.
union might have the establishment media behind them there, but it doesnt matter. union cant compete with league
get SL right and youll bury union, even with the 6 nations propping them up
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| Quote ="EA"As I said to the idiot, the definitions vary.
You picked one that suits the troll's argument, I didn't.
Your loyalty is cute.
That post gave you up, you should avoid this discussion.
Actually, real debate and/or real criticism of the game and/or the NRL I'm all in favour of and I most heartily involve myself in, and always have. That I don't value the opinion of trolls and prefer to make them uncomfortable is what's confusing you.
By the way, I see you are able to use an online dictionary, look up the words "your" and "you're" next time.
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OK. Thanks George W.
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| Quote ="manly4ever"www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/is-your-afl-club-in-the-black/story-e6frexx0-1225815357617
Yet with all the money they get from TV revenue clubs still in huge debt.See not all things are rosy in the AFL eh?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"FMD thats funny
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"get a room the pair of you. Could this be RLFans first same sex marriage?'" Not really,you beat them to it!
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| Quote ="EA"So, someone who follows, for example, Liverpool FC from Australia can't be a true fan?
That is the most narrow-minded post I've read on here.
I go to every Wests Tigers game I can, as well as other games in the NRL and I don't consider myself any more a fan than the bloke who plonks his booty on his couch and watches 3 or 4 games per week and wears his Tigers Jersey down the street.'"
Well you should. Going to games and supporting your team is what it's all about.
And of course someone from Australia isn't a Liverpoo FC fan..... to be honest I'm wary of anyone from outside the city of Liverpool who supports them.........support your hometown club, you glory hunting *******.
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| Quote ="manly4ever"Not really,you beat them to it!
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blow up dolls dont count.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"blow up dolls dont count.'"
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| Quote ="nickcat0"Well you should. Going to games and supporting your team is what it's all about.
And of course someone from Australia isn't a Liverpoo FC fan..... to be honest I'm wary of anyone from outside the city of Liverpool who supports them.........support your hometown club, you glory hunting *******.'"
I think you are confusing the words "fan" and "supporter".
And yes, people from Australia can be Liverpool fans, of course they can.
It's bizarre to think otherwise.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"OK. Thanks George W.'"
Your welcome.....
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| so it looks like the debate is over.
RL is the number 1 australian sport.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"so it looks like the debate is over.
RL is the number 1 australian sport.
yehaa.'"
Does it upset you that you claim it's bigger than AFL, your other favourite sport?
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Does it upset you that you claim it's bigger than AFL, your other favourite sport?
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i like AFL like englishmen like showers.
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| so he has dumped his club, then dumped his sport, then dumped his new sport, wonder when he will get the hump with the Stains and start supporting the warratahs?
What character the man has!
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Have a word with yourself.....
Do you think former Leeds Rhino's Star Lee Smith signed for Wasps Rugby union to play infront of "massive Union Crowds" ?
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I lie awake at night wondering Why Johnny wilkinson is dicking around in French Rugby union with clubs with Wage bills from 12 million to 20 million quid.... I think Johnny come on lad play rugby League get yourself smashed to bits and earn 60 grand a year instead of 600,000......
oh aye its all about the crowd figures this code switching......'"
So how many fans do you think Lee would have been playing in front if he was playing for Leeds in February anywhere but Headingley - if there is 6,000 in Wrexham I would be amazed.
Johnny Wilkinson has always been a RU player so the fact he maximises his earning potential playing the sport in France is no surprise is it?
If he gets to play for England he will get to play in front of massive crowds with massive personal exposure which also help his earning potential. He will also get to play in a World Cup that is a genuine competition.
The major contributory factor to his decision to switch was not rugby related - his girlfriend is a well known soap actress that is trying to make it in the west end.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"so he has dumped his club, then dumped his sport, then dumped his new sport, wonder when he will get the hump with the Stains and start supporting the warratahs?
What character the man has!'"
as long as RL is number 1 im happy
yay.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"mate if SL gets its act together youll pass union as a sport
SL has shown massive growth since inception and clubs like yours are what are driving it forwards, with new grounds, larger crowds etc.
union might have the establishment media behind them there, but it doesnt matter. union cant compete with league
get SL right and youll bury union, even with the 6 nations propping them up'"
You knowledge of English rugby is small it is laughable.
RL will never overtake RU as an international sport - we simply don't have enough sides to have a meanigful competition and the distances between the sides is such that it makes games difficult to organise. In Wales, France and Ireland RU is a much bigger sport than Soccer, Italy has vibrant game with a big population. The structure of ticket distribution amongst the affiliated RU clubs also ensure massive crowds.
The revenues from these games - RBS - which had to be bailed out by the UK government - still continued it £40m sponsorship of the 6 nations - makes the RFU one of the richest sporting bodies in the UK.
RU has a much better TV deal than RL despite the viewing figures being approx 80k a game compared to 350k for a regular SL game.
RL has higher club attendances but this gap is closing - Leicester Tigers are extending their ground which will make them the best supported rugby club in the UK. 75,000 attended a club game in London over the Xmas period. RU has 2 meanigful cup competitions - a domestic cup and a pan European competition.
RU is a terrible game to watch - the skill levels are attrocious for full time players but its strength should not be under estimated - a bit like the comparison between the NRL and the AFL
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"You knowledge of English rugby is small it is laughable.'"
I'm sure it's better than your knowledge of the Australian sporting "demographic"....
Quote ="Serge A. Storms"RL will never overtake RU as an international sport - we simply don't have enough sides to have a meanigful competition and the distances between the sides is such that it makes games difficult to organise. In Wales, France and Ireland RU is a much bigger sport than Soccer, Italy has vibrant game with a big population. The structure of ticket distribution amongst the affiliated RU clubs also ensure massive crowds.'"
Absolute crap.
Utter .
Union is much bigger that Soccer in France, Ireland and Wales??????
x1,000
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| If there is anything McDonalds and RL has shown us it is that it doesn't matter how good or bad your product is, it's how you market it that matters!
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| again it looks like despite their best efforts, nobody can argue against the fact that RL is australias biggest sport.
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"You knowledge of English rugby is small it is laughable.
RL will never overtake RU as an international sport - we simply don't have enough sides to have a meanigful competition and the distances between the sides is such that it makes games difficult to organise. =#BFBF80In Wales, France and Ireland RU is a much bigger sport than Soccer, Italy has vibrant game with a big population. The structure of ticket distribution amongst the affiliated RU clubs also ensure massive crowds.
The revenues from these games - RBS - which had to be bailed out by the UK government - still continued it £40m sponsorship of the 6 nations - makes the RFU one of the richest sporting bodies in the UK.
RU has a much better TV deal than RL despite the viewing figures being approx 80k a game compared to 350k for a regular SL game.
RL has higher club attendances but this gap is closing - Leicester Tigers are extending their ground which will make them the best supported rugby club in the UK. 75,000 attended a club game in London over the Xmas period. RU has 2 meanigful cup competitions - a domestic cup and a pan European competition.
RU is a terrible game to watch - the skill levels are attrocious for full time players but its strength should not be under estimated - a bit like the comparison between the NRL and the AFL'" That would have to be the joke of the century!
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| Quote ="dally messenger"again it looks like despite their best efforts, nobody can argue against the fact that RL is australias biggest sport.'"
get it right - (allegedly in a statistical flawed methodology) the countries biggest TV viewed sport.
soccer has more participants
AFL has bigger crowds and more money
NRL has more TV viewers
Ru, well that has nothing!
what does this prove?
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