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| Quote ="Hillsborough Lad"Or seemingly any other rugby league club?!'"
Hull FC. Bradford. Leeds. All had visa problems with potential signings this season, iirc.
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They spent months sorting it out too
Brace yourselves for the Widnes fans'"
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you really are a predictable and boring idiot.
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| Quote ="tb"Hull FC. Bradford. Leeds. All had visa problems with potential signings this season, iirc.'"
Problems yes. Players here with illegal documents and subsequently deported no.
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| "Intelligence-led" means "someone tipped us off". So where's your bets ? Someone close to the WRU, or someone closer to the M62 ?
I suspect I'd be putting my money on the latter.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty""Intelligence-led" means "someone tipped us off". So where's your bets ? Someone close to the WRU, or someone closer to the M62 ?
I suspect I'd be putting my money on the latter.'"
I wondered how long it would take before some numpty came up with this one.
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| Im not saying they should be dropped and my own club put in, but you have to wonder when or if the Welsh experiment is going to work.
I would like nothing more than to see Welsh RL take off - If it is done fairly and squarely, no unfair bias about unlimited foreign imports etc.
I love following my club away, and have done so all round the world, including Australia. I would be delighted to book trips to Bridgend, Cardiff or wherever, a great weekend away and the prospect of real growth of the greatest game.
Im ok even with the prospect of seeing my own club hurt (albeit temporarily) by the seedlings being sown in the Valleys.
All in all, i would like to think i could remain calm about this and wish the best of luck to Celtic to get over this.
Im struggling though, as this story really boils my p1ss when i think back to the license process and what has emerged down there since that day, both on and off the field...
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| Might there also be a case for the RFL to answer?
I remember earlier in the season both Leigh and Whitehaven had visa applications refused for players. It became apparant that if RFL were to 'back' the visa applications they were far more likely to be accepted. I remember Whitehaven were in discussions with the RFL, with Whitehaven trying to justify why they needed the player and what he would bring to the club. In the end I think the RFL refused to back the application.
Now how would it look if the RFL have backed illegal applications?
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I wondered how long it would take before some numpty came up with this one.'"
So you think those stalwart servants of the state at the UKBA decided off their own bat to investigate every sports club in the country on the offchance of discovering illegal antipodeans ? I think not. Someone wrote to them. And I think we can all be certain that said informant may not have been well-disposed towards Celtic. They may even have had something to gain.
I wonder if the Freedom of Information Act would allow us to discover who ratted on the Aussie-boyos.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty""Intelligence-led" means "someone tipped us off". So where's your bets ? Someone close to the WRU, or someone closer to the M62 ?
I suspect I'd be putting my money on the latter.'"
And how would anyone other than the players involved, someone within Celtic etc known how the Visa's had been complted
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty""Intelligence-led" means "someone tipped us off". So where's your bets ? Someone close to the WRU, or someone closer to the M62 ?
I suspect I'd be putting my money on the latter.'"
Of course it's more important who ratted on them than what they actually did. Great piece of spin there!
To quote Alf Uckitt, 'you really are a predictable and boring idiot.'
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| Quote ="tb"take a moment to ask yourself how many other clubs have had visa problems with Australian signings this year, and then ask yourself what this new attitude by UKBA could potentially mean for any club, in any league?'"
According to the Crusaders website the visa problems relate to previous seasons and as such presumably have nothing to do with any "new attitude".
Whether that means that CC's 2009 overseas recruitment was above board or whether further revelations will follow remains to be seen.
"The investigation found discrepancies in the visa applications of the six players in seasons prior to 2009."
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"So you think those stalwart servants of the state at the UKBA decided off their own bat to investigate every sports club in the country on the offchance of discovering illegal antipodeans ? I think not. Someone wrote to them. And I think we can all be certain that said informant may not have been well-disposed towards Celtic. They may even have had something to gain.'"
One can only wonder....you would imagine planes full of 'illegals' ready to take off over the next few days if everyone was being investigated, wouldn't you?
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They spent months sorting it out too
Brace yourselves for the Widnes fans'"
Sorry to disappoint we're far more concerned with ticking our own boxes loser.
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I wondered how long it would take before some numpty came up with this one.'"
er.....it was on page 2
Quote ="gutterfax" I would be keen to see where this "intelligence-led investigation" came from....
something along the lines of:
"we got a tip off from a bloke who has a team somewhere near wigan and we acted upon it".....'"
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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever"Might there also be a case for the RFL to answer?
I remember earlier in the season both Leigh and Whitehaven had visa applications refused for players. It became apparant that if RFL were to 'back' the visa applications they were far more likely to be accepted. I remember Whitehaven were in discussions with the RFL, with Whitehaven trying to justify why they needed the player and what he would bring to the club. In the end I think the RFL refused to back the application.
Now how would it look if the RFL have backed illegal applications?'"
The RFL actually backed (think 'sponsored' is the correct term) our application, and it still got turned down
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"So you think those stalwart servants of the state at the UKBA decided off their own bat to investigate every sports club in the country on the offchance of discovering illegal antipodeans ? I think not. Someone wrote to them. And I think we can all be certain that said informant may not have been well-disposed towards Celtic. They may even have had something to gain.
I wonder if the Freedom of Information Act would allow us to discover who ratted on the Aussie-boyos.'"
I've no idea how the UKBA found out about these players. Then again, I'm not the one pointing fingers and inventing conspiracy theories, am I?
There was trouble with their work permits before the start of the season. Maybe they just came back to find out why these 6 players were playing for them?
It makes no difference either way does it?
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"I wonder if the Freedom of Information Act would allow us to discover who ratted on the Aussie-boyos.'"
It was me.
Problem pal?
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| Quote ="Maximus Decimus"Of course it's more important who ratted on them than what they actually did. Great piece of spin there!
To quote Alf Uckitt, 'you really are a predictable and boring idiot.''"
Why sound so defensive ? I don't believe I suggested the letter to UKBA came from a Widnes postcode. Or do you know something ....?
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| Quote ="Steve Fox"It was me.
Problem pal?'"
No, I'm Spartacus!!!
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| Quote ="richardviking"This thread can become irritating, quickly, thanks to you, Code13. I've got no problem with your personal vendetta against Widnes, but I'm sure some Vikings will take your bait.
Notice almost every mention of Widnes in this thread has come from you, or Roofs. Not Widnes fans. Leave the Widnes club out of this, as they've got twice the amount of respect and compassion for the good of this sport (including Celtic Crusaders) than most ever will.
For the record, I think it's a sad state of affairs in Wales. I'm sympathetic to their loyal band of fans, (particularly that halfwit CruCruCrusaders - who must plug thousands into following them) though I'm not all that surprised. The club is out of its depth on every level at the time being, I just hope they can recover within two years for the good of the Welsh game.'"
Well said RV. I didn't want to comment on C13's pathetic attemts of fishing. I've made my comments on the Widnes board.
C13 is a moderater and is supposed to do something about Trolls!
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| Quote ="Maximus Decimus"Of course it's more important who ratted on them than what they actually did.'"
Not what he said.
Quote Great piece of spin there!'"
Considering the above, this is rather amazing.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"Why sound so defensive ? I don't believe I suggested the letter to UKBA came from a Widnes postcode. Or do you know something ....?'"
There you go. Proof, if ever there was, of your sleuth-like genius!
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| Quote ="Pepe"No, I'm Spartacus!!!'"
No, I'm Spartacus and so's my wife!!!!!!!
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