I didn't ask if they should have one , I asked if they do have one ?

So York have a F/T marketing team , by team I mean at least 3 people , and I dont mean your community staff

Ah, moving the goalposts there somewhat. Fair enough.

I was replying to this post by Dave T from Warrington



So a ' team ' meaning more than one person , any less than 3 is a waste in my opinion , and this on top of F/T community staff otherwise they aren't doing their job properly

If that is not the case , what do York actually have ?

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So you managed to attract a very good attendance at a TV game , most coming in on free tickets to watch their kids doing the pre and half time entertainment ?

Your ' commercial ' ie ' Commercial manager , not marketing team has managed to get part of the stadium sponsored and a bar that hopefully will bring in extra monies

Excellent , well done to all involved

Still not what Dave T or I was talking about

What sort of attendance are you expecting next week against Worky ?

What ' marketing ' is taking place in York this week to bring more fans in ?

Has your BOD spoke to Workingtons BOD to discuss what you and they can do to encourage more of their fans to attend the match ?

Have you got all the data from everybody that attended the TV game and have they been contacted since to encourage them to attend this week

If you have that data what mode of communication are your club using to inform them of upcoming games and any special offers you are offering in the future ?

What are your club intending to do differently to the TV game to bring in other people who didn't attend that game ?

What sort of Marketing ' budget ' do the people you do have , that can be spent on Marketing , is that money set at the start of the season before any playing budget is sorted ?

This is not a criticism of York , it is just what every club should be doing

Not just when on the TV but every week , all the time , ongoing

Nah. Was about right. 4500 in Princess St, 1500 in WRE and Railway End in second half and 700 in rest of ground.

Rd 20 - Weekend July 10th -12th

Wigan V Les Cats 11,543
Wakefield v Leeds 6,425
Celtic v Salford 3,009
Quins v Hudds 3,916
Warrington v St Helens 12,075
Hull KR v Bradford 8,206
Cas v Hull FC 8,297

Rd 19Rd Total = 60,260
Rd Avg = 8,608

Rd 20Rd Total = 53,471
Rd Avg = 7,6,38

Slitly lower total this week due to Quins and Crus. both at home. Well done to Warrington for crowd of the week.

Oi , How about a Sydney team ?

i thought the orthodoxy was that televising a game harms attendances? just out of curiousity how do you know that 'most' of the tickets were giveaways? im always curious as to people's sources for such bold statements.

Well i can tell you for a fact that when Widnes played Salford in front of the Sky camera's we set a new record attendance for the national leagues and all it took was for the club to sell tickets at half price to the parents of the kids that were involved in the 'Vikings Community Choir'.

So they sold more tickets to people who wouldnt normally go?

Terrible, terrible idea.

wigans idea of advertising the leeds game as the big one seems to be reaping the rewards- a 20k plus crowd is expected with currently over 15,000 tickets been sold for the game. tickets are priced at 10 quid and 5 quid for both sets of fans. and if you are a wigan season ticket holder and you buy a ticket you get yourself a free big 1 t shirt.

How very dare you talk about my home town like that. Hang your head with shame.

They are certainly pushing it by every means possible, we received 5 leaflets from wigan the other day trying to get us to buy (ok the went in the bin but assuming the are targeting everyone on their database they are bound to get extras that way!) and it seems to be advertised on the radio regularly too.

paid to the home teams when they are on TV and those clubs are then obliged to give out 200 family tickets it would seem fair to suggest that a large number of fans would have been admitted with those

It is true that many others may well have paid to watch their little darlings perform and as I said , well done

The point being the question asked was about ' Marketing teams '

Who has them and who doesn't ?

About 200 families worth I would guess if they all took them up.

So anything between 200 and 800 at the gate

Out of these ones 'who wouldn't normally go' most used to go the matches but they stopped going either through the club being relegated or cos a lot of fans had had enough when we had stephen vaughn as owner and they needed to realise that the club had changed and quite a few of these now go the matches.

Yeah, what a rubbish idea, getting fans to come back

so it was or wasnt most?

, and if they dont should they and should that be part of a licence application ?

yes and no. In ideal world yes but are cubs going to spend 160k+ on a marketing team? Probably not. Every SL club should have to have an indicative budget imo that shows how much they will spend on marketing, jnr development, 1st team salary, coaching salaries etc. i would be happy to see the RFL set a % expectation on this.

This is the post that got me onto the subject



Given the poor relatively speaking attendances at many of our clubs I would have thought that either the RFL demand the clubs do more and have people specificaly at clubs doing this job or they do more themselves

Bringing up an article from 2006 on a thread about 2009 crowd figures is rather sad.