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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Sorry, I had no intention of bringing up a bad part of your history to embarrass you!'"
Thanks. I feel better now.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"I aren't trying to twist anything. You're trying to bring up a completely hypothetical argument that you cannot prove right or wrong, so no matter what I reply you will still disagree with. What's the point?
If Wigan, Saints or anyone in the SL didn't meet ANY criteria to be in SL, then I guarantee that they would not be in the SL. Anyone that is trying to argue that they would despite not meeting ANY criteria is simply idiotic.'"
like the awarding of franchises
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Yes. for the benefit of RL.
those who only care about their own teams or are too stupid to understand what is at stake are voting no.'"
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| Quote ="Starbug"On or Off pitch , and who makes that decision ?'"
Presumably going by the criteria and the decisional will be made by the licence panel.
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| Quote ="classycas2009"If your ansrew is no...then this is just not the way forward....if you answer yes...I think you lieing to yourself
If they would then yes...maybe this is the way forward, but in a realistic world of RFL thats not going to happen is it?'"
If you think a club can be in SL and not achieve ANY of the criteria, you are deluding yourself.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"I aren't trying to twist anything. You're trying to bring up a completely hypothetical argument that you cannot prove right or wrong, so no matter what I reply you will still disagree with. What's the point?
If Wigan, Saints or anyone in the SL didn't meet ANY criteria to be in SL, then I guarantee that they would not be in the SL. Anyone that is trying to argue that they would despite not meeting ANY criteria is simply idiotic.'"
i dont mean if they dont meet ANY
lets just say halifax meet more critia points than Quinns/Wigan etc...would RFL swap them places
Top goes up, bottom goes down....theres no arguments then....make NRL1 more competitve and if your sat at bottom of SL, you need to bck your ideas up or your going down.
Lets not have some people in suits making up ideas of why a team should be there and who shouldnt
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| Quote ="Red Red Robin"Presumably going by the criteria and the decisional will be made by the licence panel.'"
Which is nothing more than somebodies opinion , and therefore no more relative than yours or mine
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"going with a womans argument on this issue would be more dangerous than allowing a monkey to fly a plane'"
One, I'm a bloke.
Two, you are an ignoramous.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Which is nothing more than somebodies opinion , and therefore no more relative than yours or mine'"
well...... [size=200SPOT ON CHAP[/size
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| Quote ="classycas2009"i dont mean if they dont meet ANY
lets just say halifax meet more critia points than Quinns/Wigan etc...would RFL swap them places
Top goes up, bottom goes down....theres no arguments then....make NRL1 more competitve and if your sat at bottom of SL, you need to bck your ideas up or your going down.
Lets not have some people in suits making up ideas of why a team should be there and who shouldnt'"
No, they wouldn't swap them, because that's not how the process works.
You really need to understand the licensing process more before trying to argue against it.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Which is nothing more than somebodies opinion , and therefore no more relative than yours or mine'"
I think it is a hell of a lot more relevant than yours or mine, as these are the people in the positions of power. And I have a feeling that their opinion is a lot more educated and based on a lot more facts than your or mine, hence how they got into these positions of power.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"No, they wouldn't swap them, because that's not how the process works.
You really need to understand the licensing process more before trying to argue against it.'"
yeah, you got that part right....that would be their (RFL's) argument too
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"......their opinion is a lot more educated and based on a lot more facts than your or mine, hence how they got into these positions of power.'"
I did think that about the lads and lasses that ran the banking industry of late
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"No, they wouldn't swap them, because that's not how the process works.
You really need to understand the licensing process more before trying to argue against it.'"
There is no process
You are stupid if you think there is , Franchises are there to expand the sport , nothing more , nothing less
All most want is the RFL to actually announce what they want
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"Congratulations for bringing out 3 examples from the history of super league which argue otherwise. clearly my argument is outgunned by such strong counter evidence. The wakefield/castleford battle, thinking about it, was a complete waste of interest.'"
I think that the interest in that game was that players were playing for their jobs as there would have been no guarantee that the players on the losing team would have been retained due to the big drop in income that came with relegation.
Being relegated from a full time league to a semi pro one meant that the consequences of relegation from Super League could have been too severe for a club without a backer to help them out. The stakes for playing that one game were IMO too high. It could well have convinced the RFL even more that they were doing the right thing in introducing franchises.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"I think it is a hell of a lot more relevant than yours or mine, as these are the people in the positions of power. And I have a feeling that their opinion is a lot more basis than your or mine.'"
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"I think it is a hell of a lot more relevant than yours or mine, as these are the people in the positions of power. And I have a feeling that their opinion is a lot more educated and based on a lot more facts than your or mine, hence how they got into these positions of power.'"
You really dont know about Mr Woods previous do you ?
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| Quote ="classycas2009"well...... [size=200SPOT ON CHAP[/size'" Would you have liked it if Cas had got relegated last year? And then spent this season putting 60 points past teams, and then next season getting hammered every other week and getting relegated again? With Westerman and Owen playing for Leeds, and replaced by journeymen Aussies in the Cas team? Would that be good for the game?
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| Quote ="Wes Hooligan"Would you have liked it if Cas had got relegated last year? And then spent this season putting 60 points past teams, and then next season getting hammered every other week? With Westerman and Owen playing for Leeds, and replaced by journeymen Aussies in the Cas team? Would that be good for the game?'"
Which tells you what ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Which tells you what ?'" That automatic promotion and relegation between Super League and the Championship is an absolute farce in modern day Rugby League, and will continue to be until the Championship becomes a full-time league.
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| Quote ="littlerich"I did think that about the lads and lasses that ran the banking industry of late
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Well they know more about what they're doing than us! The banks would have gone down quicker than they did had we been in charge most likely!
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| Quote ="Wes Hooligan"Would you have liked it if Cas had got relegated last year? And then spent this season putting 60 points past teams, and then next season getting hammered every other week and getting relegated again? With Westerman and Owen playing for Leeds, and replaced by journeymen Aussies in the Cas team? Would that be good for the game?'"
If they come bottom, then YES...just start the transfer window at the same time and after both comps have ended...whala....know if you cant make it in your first season back, no exuses...your going back down...maybe next time, ull learn that bit more.....isnt that whats sports about?
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| no argument can still remove the fact that without relegation the games played by those atthe lower reaches of SL mean absolutely NOTHING
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| Quote ="classycas2009"EDITED'"
You've edited it in a way that now makes no sense. Well done. Good argument!
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| Quote ="Wes Hooligan"That automatic promotion and relegation between Super League and the Championship is an absolute farce in modern day Rugby League, and will continue to be until the Championship becomes a full-time league.'"
And ? , we will get there in the end
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