you what?
have you been? when Bates ran the show the budget swelled and work almost never happened, Mr walker was drafted in and the work overcame the technical problems and shot up. Without RW we wouldnt have a national stadium!

anyway with the funky roll ups they have over there we should be able to do it well quicker if it took the dutch 18 months! They must have had 6 meal breaks per shift!

I meant as a project it isn’t a good example, no slur meant on Mr Walker.

No think this is a prime example.

A project on the rocks, dogged by financial worries and former inept leadership (mr bates in the wembley fiasco & mr box et al in wakefields case), that was turned around by the leadership of a proven world class businessman and sporting fundraiser.

Thanks granny.

Lets be a realist here. Im all for new stadiums and improve facilities at all clubs but planning permission for this stadium will take over a year. It is very early stages and whilst i hope cas,wakey, saints and who ever else want new stadiums get them. Cas are well ahead of wakey in preperation and because of the credit crunch, plans have been delayed.

I have been told end of October and they start to build, 18 months later it's done




But hey what do i know



Edit, I've since been told that i'm way off the mark and should button it, so my opologies.

Seems a bit quick that. Planning for such a project can take 12 months+ and thats if it doesnt get called in by the government. Next october is more realistic i think.

Saints aim to be in their stadium in 2011 and we've had planning permission for nearly a year.

Have a look [url=http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/PlanningApplications/MakinganApplication/planning_workflow.htm?wbc_purpose=basic&WBCMODE=presentationunpublisheddefault.htmdefault.htmdefault.htm%23centrecontentdefault.htmdefault.htmhere[/url

If that can be done by october then





to your council!

Whilst having no idea about how long the process may take, you have to imagine with Rodney Walker spearheading the trust he has the experience and knowledge to ensure this moves quite quickly and smooth

In the 2007, 2008 and current season (thats over 30 games iirc, whether you include play-offs or not) we have only had one crowd under 12k. We have also had 4 crowds over 22k iirc again. So you are very, very wrong with that statement.
Talking about Wakeys ground, although I think a capacity of 14-15k would have been better (I think Wire's capacity has hindered them slightly. If they had a ground of around 16-18k, I feel early on they would have attracted a couple more thousand fans for some games who could have stayed with the club, but thats a different story) the idea of Wakey getting their new ground finally should only be met with positivity. Their current ground is shocking, I've never been to a worse ground and if Wakey were building a new 5k stadium that would be an improvement!

Yeah not a easy and quick jobby by the looks of it




But i think brown paper bags will save us some time

I'll give you that one

Just wait until the i's have been dotted and the t's crossed concerning Cougar Park!













































We havebeen waiting for quite a long time time but it is imminent

[size=109 I have been writing that on here for years. But the minute I write it, some dope comes on here and accuses me of trolling.

The fact of the matter is that there may be no approval or agreed contract by 2011, in which case Wakey are likely to drop back into the Championship. At that point I would think that a more modest 8,000 capacity stadium, with 5,000 seats and 3,000 terrace capacity, would be appropriate.

People need to understand that the Championship is going to become bigger and better, what with the TV telecast on Sky every Thursday night, and all the great French clubs joining in (Paris or Lyon or both could well follow Toulouse in 2012). There will be a great international competition to enjoy in the Championship[/size

LOVELY!

Go watch Warrington play in it then!

You seem to assume that we are still in the Promotion-relegation system, where position on the table was everything. Actually I have to inform you that a licensing system began this year, and position on the table is not a major issue any more. According to the criteria, Wakefield were lucky to get a spot in 2009. They are on notice about their future license.

Warrington will never be dropped. Their only problem is on the field. But they have everything else in place, including a poorly designed, soulless, but nonetheless adequate stadium.

Wakefield can be dropped because of a number of factors against it. These include being too close to Castleford, not having a good junior set up, not having enough supporters, and having a dreadful, disgusting stadium.

That is why Wakefield needs to think long and hard about what it is aiming for with a new stadium, and find out is it going to materialise before the Second Coming, let alone before the licensing decisions in 2011.

Really? How does one decide who plays in a Grand Final then? Do clubs have to submit a statement in no more than 50 words why they deserve to be there?

You misunderstand me. I was pointing out to my bitter friend from Wakefield that position on the Super League table -- namely being at the bottom or not -- is not a major issue for a license renewal decision. The other criteria are more important.

I know. I was just yanking your chain.

Cheap points to you this round, I guess.

I guess that I am really worried that the Wakefield fans -- with their limited education, and their high susceptibility to cheap promises made by overweight local charlatans -- are going have their hopes raised now, only to have them dashed later.

Here's a question for you Mr Phallus.

You state:

"position on the Super League table -- namely being at the bottom or not -- is not a major issue for a license renewal decision. The other criteria are more important".

Do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing - in sport? In sport - how much credence should we put upon clubs' actual performance on the pitch?

I think that the main thing in our sport is having clubs that can attract good crowds week in week out, the way that Leeds, Wigan and Hull FC do. Of course on field performance is relevant to that, but even poorly performing teams like Wigan and Hull FC can still attract decent crowds.

Note that all of these clubs have decent stadia. Poorly performing clubs with poor stadia, like Bradford, cannot draw the crowds they potentially could. So having a comfortable stadium is the key. Wakefield's management have neglected the stadium issue for decades. Bell Vue was not even fit for human habitation in 1979, let alone in 2009!

OK

So, where do Harlequins fit into all this - especially the highlighted bit above?