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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"If you want a thread on that...start one
This thread is about a relegation free SL club of 10years or so with bags of cash (ie the Bird offer) opting to sign a reserve grader from Oz. It is shameful.'"
Your trolling exercise and anti wakey guff is shameful.......and not very subtle either!!!!
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"If you want a thread on that...start one
This thread is about a relegation free SL club of 10years or so with bags of cash (ie the Bird offer) opting to sign a reserve grader from Oz. It is shameful.'"
I thought this thread was you asking the RFL to stick to the criteria and not let Winterstein in because as you, in bold letters pointed out, he hadnt played for Samoa.
But wait- he has.
So instead i will make use of the fact that i made an incorrect comment and start spewing my anti Wakefield crap,just to cover up the fact i got it wrong in the first place.Thus ensuring your glaring error is lost in pages and pages of drivel.
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| Quote ="vastman"Cut the crap troll, your parasite club (you know the one that body snatched Sheffield) has no room to talk. Even if any of your current Academy make it you will move them on and buy another Rod Jenson.
Also what do you think about Hudds getting rid of a promising British coach and replacing him with a non achieving Aussie - backwards step?
Still if you think having an Aussie coach is good for the game so be it. Shameful I call it.'"
Nothing to say on the topic. What a surprise
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Nothing to say on the topic. What a surprise
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you are making yourself look silly now!
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Your trolling exercise and anti wakey guff is shameful.......and not very subtle either!!!!'"
If only you hadn't signed a reserve grader. never mind.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"I thought this thread was you asking the RFL to stick to the criteria and not let Winterstein in because as you, in bold letters pointed out, he hadnt played for Samoa.
But wait- he has.
So instead i will make use of the fact that i made an incorrect comment and start spewing my anti Wakefield crap,just to cover up the fact i got it wrong in the first place.Thus ensuring your glaring error is lost in pages and pages of drivel.'"
i thanked you for the link to the cutting.
I still think it is a shambles to resort to signing a reserve grader. You seem to think otherwise. so be it.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Really
So finding a young British player like Griffin and develoing him into a player worthy of the England train on squad does'nt count.
Bringing players through the Academy from their early teens does'nt count.
No neither of the March's started at Cas
Back up that statement and show me the list of players from Bradford, Hull FC, Cas, and Warrington that is significantly better than Wakefields.
10 years in Super League for Wakefield, and as I stated it takes time to develop a SL quality youth system, you don't get one off the shelf at Tesco fella.
Your motives for being in this discusion have become way too transparent with some of these claims.'"
Bradford,
Pryce, Fielden, Peacock, Pryce, Reardon, Ferres, Bridge, Burgess, Langley, Cook, Atkins, Halley, Carlile, Flanagan are all playing in SL right now
Hull
Yeaman, Horne, Horne, Washbrook, King, Houghton, Briscoe, Lee, Hall, Cooke, Radford, Burnett, Dixon are all playing SL right now
Cas
Lynch, Boyle, Westerman, Owen, Shenton, Huby, Orr, Godwin,
bored of listing things, the point is clearly made
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| Quote ="The Clan"% of Wakefields squad that are overseas = 37%
% of Leeds squad that are overseas = 20%
Not as wide as I would have thought.'" almost double isnt wide?
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"you are making yourself look silly now!'"
Am I? To you and your like minded fellow posters. Oh dear.
Back to topic. How does signing a reserve grader from Oz with only 4/5 games develop RL in the UK. What signal dos it send to kids trying to break through into first teams?
i think people like Drew have proven themselves in Oz and can teach youngsters here. But Winterstein
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Bradford,
Pryce, Fielden, Peacock, Pryce, Reardon, Ferres, Bridge, Burgess, Langley, Cook, Atkins, Halley, Carlile, Flanagan are all playing in SL right now
Hull
Yeaman, Horne, Horne, Washbrook, King, Houghton, Briscoe, Lee, Hall, Cooke, Radford, Burnett, Dixon are all playing SL right now
Cas
Lynch, Boyle, Westerman, Owen, Shenton, Huby, Orr, Godwin,
bored of listing things, the point is clearly made'"
What point, that wakey actually stack up quite well using your own info as comparison?
Westwood, Mason, Blaymire, Brough, Snitch, Ferguson, Pitts, Bibb, Murphy Griffin, Blake......all playing in Super League right now!
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"i thanked you for the link to the cutting.
I still think it is a shambles to resort to signing a reserve grader. You seem to think otherwise. so be it.'"
I dont think ive actuallty stated whether i agree with it or not,because i thought the topic was about the RFL sticking to criteria.
However it has diversified.
FWIW,Im not convinced that it is a good move,purely on the grounds that its another over seas player.
Unfortunately that is not the only grounds for making the decision to bring him over.
Is there a player of similar ability and potential that is Available and British,quite possibly - Will he sign for the same money? Possibly not.
So looking at it from a financial prospective the overseas player may be worth more of a gamble than the British player.
Im not saying its right ,but i can understand why we still have fringe NRL players coming over.
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"What point, that wakey actually stack up quite well using your own info as comparison?
Westwood, Mason, Blaymire, Brough, Snitch, Ferguson, Pitts, Bibb, Murphy Griffin, Blake......all playing in Super League right now!'" add Ellis to that list who's now in the NRL
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| Oh boo freakin hoo...
This board sometimes gets too full of arrogant planks who won't listen to either side of an argument, hence we have 8 pages saying the same bleedin thing.
Can tell i've had a bad day, FWIW I don't particularly agree with the signing but I understand their reasons, can see their point of view and aren't going to spend an hour of my life sat arguing the toss about it.
Besides Wakey are working hard to rectify issues that maybe were there a few years back and like most clubs moving in the right direction.
I suggest old Smokey finds a hobby
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| Didnt Hull FC sign a relatively unknown prop from Aus recently,cant remember his name.But i dont remember them getting aload of flack for it.
I take into account HullFC have an excellent record in junior development.
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| Quote ="vastman"I'll tell you this much I suspect Winterstien will likely bring more to SL than Greg Eastwood will should he ever arrive.'" Vasty, what the hell?
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| Quote ="deeHell"I'll never forget the hype at Hudds about Rod "the rocket" Jensen. What a quality signing he turned out to be.
'" Jensen was treated like dirt by certain members of the Huddersfield senior management team and board of directors which accounted for his alarming dip in form, before this he was a very good player for the club. Either way, he had a much better NRL pedigree than someone like Winterstein.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Nothing avoided old dear. Your guy said wakey had been in SL 10 years and developing a system takes time i asked how long.'"
[size=75 Quote ="SimonBarrett"l dont know? Do you?
How does your club stack up over the same time span re youth development???'"
Quote ="Marsdengiant"I was very pleased that we beat Catalans with only 2 overseas players and I would be very disappointed if after a decade of continuous SL presence the Giants started signing NRL reserve graders. it would be a backward step.'" [/size
Yep, you're right, you didn't avoid the question at all.
Oh, I'm sure a certain Michael Korkidas was a NRL reserve grader and perhaps still would be if he was on the books of an NRL club!
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| Wakefield have been short of a big second row forward with an off load game since Solomona left. Now I am not for one minute suggesting that this kid is the next Solomona (before someone jumps in), but he has the attributes mentioned above that tend to be more prevalent in the South Sea Islanders than UK born players.
The guy is still relatively young and his style of play is probably more suited to the Superleague than the NRL (which is more defensively orientated). Lets save opinion on the validity of the signing until he has actually arrived and can be judged on his performances on the field.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Wakefield have been short of a big second row forward with an off load game since Solomona left. Now I am not for one minute suggesting that this kid is the next Solomona (before someone jumps in), but he has the attributes mentioned above that tend to be more prevalent in the South Sea Islanders than UK born players.
The guy is still relatively young and his style of play is probably more suited to the Superleague than the NRL (which is more defensively orientated). Lets save opinion on the validity of the signing until he has actually arrived and can be judged on his performances on the field.'"
At last a sensible post !!
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Wakefield have been short of a big second row forward with an off load game since Solomona left. Now I am not for one minute suggesting that this kid is the next Solomona (before someone jumps in), but he has the attributes mentioned above that tend to be more prevalent in the South Sea Islanders than UK born players.
The guy is still relatively young and his style of play is probably more suited to the Superleague than the NRL (which is more defensively orientated). Lets save opinion on the validity of the signing until he has actually arrived and can be judged on his performances on the field.'"
There's 8 pages of an argument provoked by two Hudds fans with an agenda, backed by a Leeds fan with an ego and fallen for by a few of our lot, no place for common sense here
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| Quote ="Wes Hooligan"Jensen was treated like dirt by certain members of the Huddersfield senior management team and board of directors which accounted for his alarming dip in form, before this he was a very good player for the club. Either way, he had a much better NRL pedigree than someone like Winterstein.'"
Thats one description for a garbage player.
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| What makes me laugh is the argument that a player in his late 20s or early 30s is somehow more valid than a young kid with his career ahead of him.
Winterstein may well turn out to be one of the best overseas signings of the season, we'll have to wait and see.
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| I think Marsdengiant's talking e. Has he forgot about Chris Nero, he played no more than 5 games in the NRL and was twice the player Mick De Vere was.
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"What point, that wakey actually stack up quite well using your own info as comparison?
Westwood, Mason, Blaymire, Brough, Snitch, Ferguson, Pitts, Bibb, Murphy Griffin, Blake......all playing in Super League right now!'"
yes, if you want to pretend Pitts, Bibb, Murphy, Blake are first team players
and you pretend Westwood, Mason, Blaymire, Brough, Snitch are the quality of player like Peacock, Fielden, Pryce, Yeaman, Horne, Cooke
but why would we pretend that
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Didnt Hull FC sign a relatively unknown prop from Aus recently,cant remember his name.But i dont remember them getting aload of flack for it.
I take into account HullFC have an excellent record in junior development.'"
well done on arguing against your own point
thats the reason they arent getting flack for it, but Moa still isnt the player we should be bringing over
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