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| Quote ="Rabbit_Attack"Redfern you dimwit!!!'"
and since its been demolished and rebuilt with a capacity of under 10,000.
stick to surfing and night and watching AFL mate.
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they is anyone involved with the perths reds. the club freely chose to betray the ARL and go to news ltd. when news ltd killed them off, its karma
losing souths and norths was terrible for RL. we lost the north shore to AwFuL and onion and i dont need to even mention all the good things souths bring to RL.
cronulla are a club developing. as english fans, who are you to belitte a club getting 13,000, the club you support only gets 8000 and by many standards shouldnt be in SL.
but im sure when it comes to Hull KR all your rantings on this thread re. cronulla wont they apply will they
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| Quote ="rafsanjhani"heres a pom perspective.i do often see huge attendances for afl.WHY?WHY THE @UCK does inferior product get em in?is it marketing?is it mass auto suggestion?im baffled.over here we havd to suffer soccer even the most dull 0-0draw doesnt detract from the massif crowds .incedently the most boring arrogant git of an ozzie i ever met in uk ....was a braindead union bum .'"
1. marketing.
2. they didnt have League clubs to fund them so needed to get fan based revenues up.
3. cheap season tickets.
4. melbourne is a really boring city vs sydney.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"When i went to Cronulla it was no dramas hopping on a train and a free bus to the ground. ANZ is easy to get to as well. SFS isn't too hard. Not been to Brooky, Parra or Penrith so can't comment.
If you've ever tried to get from Dandenong to the MCG you might not think PT in Melbourne is so great! PT to Subi in Perth is great with a train station right next door and trains running from virtually everywhere. Never been to Adelaide so can't comment.'"
with most games at night, the stadium is poor.
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the past decade has seen over $300 million spent on RL grounds. before our grounds would often consist of a single main grand stand holding 2000 and the rest all grassed. but the past decade has seen :
1. gold coast getting a new $300 million, 27,000 all seater ground
2. townsville getting around $20 million in ground improvements with more seats, and more to follow
3. newcastle getting a brand new $26 million eastern grandstand, with the old grand stand to also be replaced soon
4. kogarah - around 15 million spent building seats around the ground and extending the grand stand
5. melbourne to get a brand new 30,000 seat ground next year
6. manly to soon get $20 million to upgrade brookie.
7. brisbane getting a brand new stadium at Lang Park
8. cronulla getting $10 million to build a new grand stand on the western side.
9. penrith - $10 million on extension to grand stand
10. wollongong - new grand stand built on northern side.
our grounds are getting rebuilt, the nrl is pushing season tickets. its all beginning to kick into place.
before we had millions from poker machines so we didnt need to get fan based revenues up.
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| Quote ="rafsanjhani"thanks for the answers!interesting it does begger the question why the hell have the powers that be in rl not come up with an idea like 'membership'?i mean its not cutting edge marketing.also to cocede hegemony to afl,certainly in terms of game stewardship.our sport is blighted with d..kheads at the top its almost customary to self implode at the top .this is very similar to uk run by half wits post war who let a magnificent sport fall from grace.tell me someting positive !!is there a visionary in power yet?finally this greatest game deserves.finally who has been your worst and greatest rl ambassadors?(im thinkin more bosses and rl chief's,).tell me theres a deliverer in the making?'"
the best ARL boss was ken arthurson. he had the vision to take the ARL into new zealand, queensland.
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| Quote ="Lockyer4President!"IMO the main reasons why the AFL has bigger crowds are:
1. Good, cheap public transport.
2. Big modern, central stadiums shared by many teams. (Melbourne has 9? AFL teams and onyl two stadiums)
3. They've been pushing memberships for a couple of decades.
The NRL in Sydney is only starting to push memberships and encourage teams to move into central stadiums. Hopefully it starts to pay off sooner rather than later.
Just for an example, I'll compare Brisbane to Sydney. Brisbane has large crowds, it also has a large, modern, central stadium, public transport to the stadium is great and the cost of the bus/train is included in the ticket price. Meanwhile in Sydney most teams play out of small stadiums, getting to the stadiums is an issue and most stadiums are not near PT.'"
bullshirt....Souths, canterbury play at a big central stadium, very close to public transport, as do parra & as do Easts...ohhh ok Sydney roosters, blahh blahhh blahhh....Cronulla dont play in central sydney but alas play close to transport, if saints play at kogarah, its close to transport & close to the city...as for Penrith, well Feck me, thats going tooooooo far |
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| Quote ="CumberlandsAshes"Not to mention the small fact that it has existed in the Southern States without any serious competition for over a century. It's the only game in town.
Unlike Rugby league which has had to deal with being one of four football codes in NSW and Qld for it's entire existence, Aussie Rules has had Vic, SA and WA all to itself since it invented the game.
As a spin-off, the media is very much more complimentary to the game than the media is to RL in Sydney or Brisbane.
While I agree that far-flung suburban ovals are an issue - it all comes down to a simple fact: Brisbane has one team. Sydney has 8.5.'"
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| Quote ="dally messenger"and since its been demolished and rebuilt with a capacity of under 10,000.
stick to surfing and night and watching AFL mate.
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| Quote ="Rabbit_Attack"i'm quiet hapy to play at our original ground, can you tell me where it was mr "rugby league"...lol..you muppet, when you grow some pubes & have your first wellington come back & give it a lash'"
its 2 in the morning, are you still doing the night time surfing mate?
looks like you enjoy having a bat, little surprise given the rubbish you post.
you might be happy playing at redfern oval but sydney council isnt.
you really need to keep up with the media in australia.
stop watching so much AFL, youll understand what im saying about RL eventually
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| Quote ="dally messenger"its 2 in the morning, are you still doing the night time surfing mate?
looks like you enjoy having a bat, little surprise given the rubbish you post.
you might be happy playing at redfern oval but sydney council isnt.
you really need to keep up with the media in australia.
stop watching so much AFL, youll understand what im saying about RL eventually
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| Quote ="Rabbit_Attack"hmmmm i understand that its all dribble, you little toe rag, now go back & read a few posts back & you'll see that it was all a bit tongue in cheek, its funny how you take it all so seriously
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| Quote ="dally messenger"i just get amused every time you say you are a RL fan. thats the funniest bits i reckon'"
well maybe i'm like the majority of people in Sydney, a realist, the big hard city tends to do that to you, i'm not like you wierdo freaks on here who crave world domination
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| Quote ="Rabbit_Attack"well maybe i'm like the majority of people in Sydney, a realist, the big hard city tends to do that to you, i'm not like you wierdo freaks on here who crave world domination
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poor guy, sydney too much for you eh mate.
thats what makes you watch AFL and surf at night eh champ?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"poor guy, sydney too much for you eh mate.
thats what makes you watch AFL and surf at night eh champ?
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| Quote ="Rabbit_Attack"you're a strange boy, do you know that??
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| Quote ="dally messenger"big bad sydney hasnt done my head in mate.
still at least you claim to be a fan of one of the proudest RL clubs on planet earth, even if you do watch AFL and bag international RL.'"
are you thick??
Read back over the thread, i've said a million times i've never watched a full game of AFL!!!
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| Quote ="Rabbit_Attack"are you thick??
Read back over the thread, i've said a million times i've never watched a full game of AFL!!!
Doesnt mean i'm going to put my head in the sand & come up with Rugby League being more popular & on a grander scale than AFL, i'd say most people would admit that we are behind them'"
you say origin is boring and bag RL internationals but then talk up a dud game like collingwood vs essendon.
please champ, even the inbred victorians admit origin is special.
i can smell the BS from here.
and the real shame is you pretend to be a fan of such a famous RL club.
almost as bad as saying you werent going to be watching the RLWC games as you would be surfing instead. really funny as most of the games are at night
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| Quote ="dally messenger"you say origin is boring and bag RL internationals but then talk up a dud game like collingwood vs essendon.
please champ, even the inbred victorians admit origin is special.
i can smell the BS from here.
and the real shame is you pretend to be a fan of such a famous RL club.
almost as bad as saying you werent going to be watching the RLWC games as you would be surfing instead. really funny as most of the games are at night
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Where did i say that a big AFL game was better than origin??..i said it is equal in sense of occasion & those games happen every week almost, whilst we get 16000 for a club game, they get 80-90000, dont you just reckon they might be a bit more into their sport than we are?? |
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| Quote ="dally messenger"they is anyone involved with the perths reds. the club freely chose to betray the ARL and go to news ltd. when news ltd killed them off, its karma
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| Quote ="Rabbit_Attack"who givfes a truck if they are at night, i plan to be so far from television reception it wont matter.
Where did i say that a big AFL game was better than origin??..i said it is equal in sense of occasion & those games happen every week almost, whilst we get 16000 for a club game, they get 80-90000, dont you just reckon they might be a bit more into their sport than we are??'"
keep squirming champ, this is funny.
i was pointing out how ignorant you were when you said you wouldnt be watching any RLWC games as youd be surfing.
clearly the fact that most of the games are at night is beyond your comprehension.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"In that case you'll be pleased to know they all fu**ed off back to Sydney or joined Melbourne and can now support, with a clear conscience, the readmittence of the WA Reds!'"
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| Quote ="Rabbit_Attack"Yeah i used to like Origin, back when i was a kid, much like you are no doubt now
Now it just bores me & i'd say a hell of a lot of other people.
As for the swans, hate them, never been to a game, never watched a game.
I still say AFL poop all over us, the biggest market is still Sydney for League & everyones to busy & got to much going on & to many things to choose from to really give a toss, hence Sydney clubs at most only get 16000 odd average at best.
All you can keep bringing up is three origin games that are most years hit & miss.
As for the World Cup, do you really think most people even know its on??
I know its going to happen, will i bother to watch games? probably not, will i be Surfing every chance i get??..you feckin bet, most people are over League now, the crowds will be a pretty big dissapointment i reckon, you'll have a few thousand weirdo muppets from England coming over for the greatest show on earth & nobody will be home
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