Arrogant poser is possibly as accurate. He is a stain on the group.

The timing couldn’t have been worse for Shaun Wane naming his training squad on the back of him getting 6 assists and a try, in a performance not many are capable of. The problem you have is can he do that consistently, all whilst keeping his nose clean and not falling out with three quarters of the England squad during various games.

If he can then he can’t be denied but it’s a big if. I bet Wane wishes he’d named the squad this week instead. An eyebrow would hardly have been raised in comparison.

Equally, that performance could have come off the back of not being picked and so it did exactly what Wane wanted it to do.

You could be right but Jake needs to show the effort week in week out. If he has the capacity to do this, then with his natural talent, he'll be a shoe in.

30 mins of exactly what Connor needs to show. Some absolute genius is a given but other than that he’s just gone quietly about his business and kept his head down.

The dummy to kick and then stroll over the line was sublime, real quality.

What's funny all that what I said did happen and its a major flaw in Connors game and will be why tompkins and lomax are ahead of him for full back

Yes he was very good tonight but he needs to do it against saints Wigan wire more often

Sorry I didn't realise you aren't allowed in a squad if their is a better player than you in that position. Tompkins is a better player than Connor, I'm not sure you will get any fans arguing that, but Connor is a fantastic player who can play FB, Centre and halfback to a very good standard, how many other players in SL can play as well as him in those positions.

The fact that Lyne and Sargisonson are in the squad above him, is the reason that Hull fans and fans of other clubs are shocked he isn't in the squad.

A player with his ability, his utility value and the fact he has stepped up (unlike many other supposed better players) internationally are the reasons he should be in the squad. He has his flaws, but who doesn't, I can show you plenty of clips when Tompkins has missed tackles, bad mistakes and mouthed off, but he doesn't get the unfair press that Connor gets.

He can be a handy player, although he does appear a bit hot and cold.

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Totally agree about Lyne and sargingson shouldn't be anywhere near the squad in fact they aren't even the best centres at their club laughable they are in

I've never been impressed with Lyne always thought he's ok at best and that's at a minnow club with no expectations ever

Quite a few of our fans have said Connor is world class

Tompkins has won many grand finals and challenge cups and has stared in the biggest games for 10 years

Connor hasn't done a 10/10.in a final or semi final yet that's the difference between them

He's a very good super league player on his day but still hasn't done it in the biggest games ( flopped in the semi last season, some people don't realise he played against Wigan in 2017 that's how quiet he was!)

He needs to start ripping saints Wigan wire apart like he does Salford, leigh, Huddersfield and he might start getting a look in

Which player isn't, especially playing in an underperformed side.

Same reason the likes of Danny Brough, Lee Briers and a few others were not, show pony, inconsistant, attitude, temperament, lack of real ability, go missing when it really really matters.

People getting carried away with connor after a good 40 minutes against an awful leeds performance from a leeds side playing to get rid of the coach.

Quote ="Thetalentboy"Slowest full back ever that's why The only full back who can't catch any player when they break the line Just watch edens try against us Liam farrell out paced him as well for exiles... Yep Liam farrell as 3 others did as well ast season Yet some of our deluded fans think he's the best full back in the world '" Are you going to start another thread? https://twitter.com/FevRoversRLFC/statu ... JMYUg&s=19

Quote ="Thetalentboy"Slowest full back ever that's why The only full back who can't catch any player when they break the line Just watch edens try against us Liam farrell out paced him as well for exiles... Yep Liam farrell as 3 others did as well ast season Yet some of our deluded fans think he's the best full back in the world '" Are you going to start another thread? https://twitter.com/FevRoversRLFC/statu ... JMYUg&s=19

Quote ="Dave K."Are you going to start another thread? https://twitter.com/FevRoversRLFC/statu ... JMYUg&s=19'" Oooh I can’t wait for the response to this

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Bit harsh on Reece Lyne. A very good and more importantly, consistent player and we're net exactly blessed with quality centres ?

As for not being the best centre at Trinty, really ?

Definitely harsh. Lyne isn’t what I would call a classy centre but he is very hard working and consistently good. His yard gains are very good also along with his defence. I can only recall Lyne having one bad game in a wakey shirt. He works hard and does the basics to a good standard.

Quote ="Dave K."Are you going to start another thread? https://twitter.com/FevRoversRLFC/statu ... JMYUg&s=19'" Leulia is a centre and a lot quicker than Liam farrell Would love to see connor in front of Tompkins but he's miles off Tompkins as a player Connors effort last night on the last field try was just embarrassing just ran straight through him no step or anything The players expected Connor to tackle him as they only started sprinting again once he was passed him ... But no Connors awesome!

Quote ="Dave K."Are you going to start another thread? https://twitter.com/FevRoversRLFC/statu ... JMYUg&s=19'" Leulia is a centre and a lot quicker than Liam farrell Would love to see connor in front of Tompkins but he's miles off Tompkins as a player Connors effort last night on the last field try was just embarrassing just ran straight through him no step or anything The players expected Connor to tackle him as they only started sprinting again once he was passed him ... But no Connors awesome!

Yeah but need more than that to beat aussies nz and Tonga

Players like percival, king, Newman, Griffin are a lot better than

Would even have players like hardaker and welsby above him as well

Are Jake Connor fans seriously picking this week to question Sam TOMKINS defence ?

State of Connors “attempt” on Field.

Tomkins is better at every facet of the game but maybe most importantly his leadership, will to win attitude and 10+ years of big performances in big games.

Young Jack Welsby could be challenging Connor and Tomkins for that position towards the end of the season. Great win attitude and some big performances in 3 finals so far, very creative player can also play in any back position with no drop off in performance.

I don't care too much about who does and doesn't play where, I just want some representive rugby games to watch.

I'd happily sacrifice club rugby to put the international game first.

An annual 5 nations tournament with England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland and France. And a 3 series origin game Yorkshire vs the North West.

Build it and they will come.

Agree 100% in the squad for sure!

Will be an England regular for the next decade.

Welsby is a cracking prospect, playing in a very, very good St Helens side.
Not sure he is in the same bracket as either Tomkins or Connor at this stage, although his temperament is streets ahead of both of them.

Mind you, his heroics in the GF to chase a lost cause and win the game will certainly live long in the memory.

Of course Welsby isn’t. He’s best part of 10 years younger than both of them.

Welsby is the most gifted rugby player England has produced since Lomax.

He also not a grub like the other 2. He also prefers quiet nights in with his missus rather than abusing barmaids