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| Quote ="Cokey"
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Does Amor get an automatic ban or can he play Monday?
If it's automatic does it get back dated?
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| Think Saints have a bit of a point feeling hard done by with that red card - definitely think it is a response to not using the red in the last couple of weeks. A yellow would have been fair, but I can't see any further action at disciplinary.
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| Quote ="SecondRowSaint"Does Amor get an automatic ban or can he play Monday?
If it's automatic does it get back dated?'"
He should be able to play on Monday before it goes to the disciplinary next week. After watching the incident,I think they will give sending off sufficient. I also think if the V R had been used, a yellow card would have been given at worst.
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| Saints have had a really good dig here with 12 men. Regan Grace has done really well today but that error from the kick off after his try has proven really costly, 14 points against before Saints got another sniff.
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| Ahh the traditional Jon Wilkin sulk. Textbook
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| Clearly a reaction to the decisions of the last few weeks, and rightly so iy Looked dead set red in full speed but not quite as bad when you take a few looks in slow mo. Players need to start learning and the only way they will is if the price is costing your team a game like Amor ultimately did today.
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| If Amor played for Wigan there'd be a petition to bring back hanging.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"If Amor played for Wigan there'd be a petition to bring back hanging.
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TBF playing for or supporting Wigan is a hangable offence
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"If Amor played for Wigan there'd be a petition to bring back hanging.
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To be fair Wigan were the benifactors of the recent speight of non action from the refs regards high shots, i don't think Amor would have walked otherwise.
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| another reason why video refs should be asked about some foul play. how many thought it was red until they saw a replay? I certainly thought it red, and fair play to thaler for giving it. however as others have said, after replays it was, for me, a yellow
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| Never a red card. It was across the chest and bounced up. Yellow at worst, just a pen at best
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| Should've been a sin bin.
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| A great effort from St's considering playing with a man down, where's that level of commitment been all season?
It's a shame their game against Cas isn't on T.V. on Monday, I think it'll be a cracker.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Good to see a ref that doesn't bottle a red card for a high shot.'"
Contact was on the chest. How is that high?
More like jumped to red card without thinking.
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| Deserved red card. Reckless tackle.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"To be fair Wigan were the benifactors of the recent speight of non action from the refs regards high shots, i don't think Amor would have walked otherwise.'"
To be fair Wigan were also the victims of one of those non actions against Leeds.
As for the red I'd blame the system rather than Thaler. A prime example of why the VR should be used in cases where serious foul play is suspected. If you watch the camera angle which is the direction Thaler viewed it from it was a nailed on red. My first thoughts, an I'm sure many other people's were that it was a bad one and a red. Subsequent camera angles show that first contact was not high and he slipped up in contact. On replays I don't think it was even a yellow but those weren't my first thoughts.
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| Quote ="Trainman"To be fair Wigan were also the victims of one of those non actions against Leeds.
As for the red I'd blame the system rather than Thaler. A prime example of why the VR should be used in cases where serious foul play is suspected. If you watch the camera angle which is the direction Thaler viewed it from it was a nailed on red. My first thoughts, an I'm sure many other people's were that it was a bad one and a red. Subsequent camera angles show that first contact was not high and he slipped up in contact. On replays I don't think it was even a yellow but those weren't my first thoughts.'"
yes I posted exactly the same above
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| At first glance it seemed bad, but then on replay it was clearly at chest height and slipped up which was why the Wigan player shrugged it off. If it had been as bad as it misleadingly appeared the player would be sparko. So it's one of those wierd ones where the referee has been decisive, but unfortunately it was a bad decision. Let the video ref look at these things, and if the interpretation is going to be hardline then that's fine but it has to be consistent and we're going to have to accept regular sending offs in games.
It's a shame the ref wasn't as hardline on the ruck and play the ball. Both sides did it, but I think Wigan in particular were guilty of slowing down the ruck and not having markers square, which was wierd given they had a man advantage. SL desperately needs two referees to cut this out as it's getting boring now.
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| Quote ="Trainman"To be fair Wigan were also the victims of one of those non actions against Leeds.
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And to be fair i don't disagree
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"And to be fair i don't disagree
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LOL, I think these night shifts are getting to me.
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Quote ="ThePrinter"Interesting the talk at HT about the VR possibly being used for these incidents of late. I don't believe they have been used but they have in the past, Joel Moon got sent off vs Saints in 2014 after the on field ref asked the VR to view a challenge.'"
Plenty of previous;
Sam Moa sent off against London in 2012 despite the fact it showed that the 'high' tackle hit the shoulder and the whiplash affect was because of the impact to the shoulder not to the head but sent off from that.
Gareth Raynor in attempting to dislodge the ball in a bradford/Wigan CC encounter smashed rat boy in the chops so Ganson basically used the video replay to send him off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqHwSA2gEkk
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Quote ="ThePrinter"Interesting the talk at HT about the VR possibly being used for these incidents of late. I don't believe they have been used but they have in the past, Joel Moon got sent off vs Saints in 2014 after the on field ref asked the VR to view a challenge.'"
Plenty of previous;
Sam Moa sent off against London in 2012 despite the fact it showed that the 'high' tackle hit the shoulder and the whiplash affect was because of the impact to the shoulder not to the head but sent off from that.
Gareth Raynor in attempting to dislodge the ball in a bradford/Wigan CC encounter smashed rat boy in the chops so Ganson basically used the video replay to send him off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqHwSA2gEkk
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Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Plenty of previous;
Sam Moa sent off against London in 2012 despite the fact it showed that the 'high' tackle hit the shoulder and the whiplash affect was because of the impact to the shoulder not to the head but sent off from that.
Gareth Raynor in attempting to dislodge the ball in a bradford/Wigan CC encounter smashed rat boy in the chops so Ganson basically used the video replay to send him off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqHwSA2gEkk'"
The Sam Moa one was a definite red. Shoulder to the head.
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Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Plenty of previous;
Sam Moa sent off against London in 2012 despite the fact it showed that the 'high' tackle hit the shoulder and the whiplash affect was because of the impact to the shoulder not to the head but sent off from that.
Gareth Raynor in attempting to dislodge the ball in a bradford/Wigan CC encounter smashed rat boy in the chops so Ganson basically used the video replay to send him off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqHwSA2gEkk'"
The Sam Moa one was a definite red. Shoulder to the head.
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| As was Raynor. Cynical & deliberate in my book. Although he could have claimed diminished responsibility as it was on Tomkins.
Amor's was also red. Otherwise it will become acceptable to decapitate anyone as long as you hit lower down first then onto the head. I accept, in Amor's case, any ban should reflect the accidental nature of the incident.
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| Amor looked like he feared the worst straightaway.
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