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| Quote ="Mr Carl"Is this unprofessional conduct indicative of how other departments throughout the RFL act? I was always taught that for a company to suceed, they had to subscribe to the company's ethos at all levels, and not merely pay lip service to it.'"
this is an organization that has steve macnamara as its national team coach.
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| As mentioned it's not the most serious issue ever, but you do get the feeling that this degree of incompetence and lack of proactivity is rampant throughout the organisation.
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| Was this the same "business manager" who got us such a good naming rights deal last year I wonder? Sounds like he has the credentials!
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| Quote ="Finsbury Wire"Was it Gareth Raynor?'"
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| I got a couple of Exiles shirts last week through the same RFL offer & they look snide as hell with the printed on badges you should have kept the England shirt.
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| Quote ="ormian7"WOW is all I can say so far!
Last week I ordered an Exiles shirt direct from the RFL following a promotional email. Yesterday it arrived, except that it was an England shirt! I emailed last night and this morning I received a phone call from someone (who I have since found out is a Business Development Manager). I thought great, that's fast!
The first phone call went fine but he wasn't able to get the order up on the computer so said he would ring me back
The second phone call was when the fun started! Firstly, the error is 100% the fault of the RFL for sending the wrong shirt. The gentleman asked me to send back to England shirt and he would send out the correct Exiles shirt. I asked him how he wanted to arrange for the shirt to be sent back in terms of how they would pay for the postage. He told me that it would only cost about a pound and I should pay for it. I explained that that's not how things work, at which point he started to abuse me for arguing over a pound. When I said to him if it's only a pound why don't you pay for it he told me he'd have to take it further and hung up on me!
BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT MANAGER!?! He has definitely convinced me to spend more money with the RFL
I wait in anticipation to find out what happens next. I have replied to an email from a customer service representative telling them what has happened'"
How much did you pay for postage from them?
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| The England shirt was the same with the printed ISC and team logo as well
The original P+P was £2
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| Did you get the guys name?
Send a letter of complaint, how much is a first class stamp, oh wait don't bother
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| Quote ="ormian7"The England shirt was the same with the printed ISC and team logo as well
The original P+P was £2'"
Strange really considering that the exact same shirt last year was embroidered. (well, not exactly, it's the same as the St Helens, Wire, Wigan, Leeds, Hull etc etc shirts)
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"Last week I ordered some inkjet cartridges online, 2 x black, 1 x Photo Cyan and 1 x Photo Magenta. I received 2 x black, 1 x Cyan and 1 x Magenta.
I rang their sales department who apologised for the error, promised to send the 2 correct cartridges by next day delivery (which they did) and told me to keep the other 2 cartridges with their compliments.
That's customer service! They now have my loyalty.'"
This is the way that all companies should deal with errors like this......and most in office supplies do.
It cultivates customer loyalty and also contributes to the delivery of a better service in the long run as the "free goods" you've just received come straight off their bottom line.
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| Quote ="Finsbury Wire"Was it Gareth Raynor?'"
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| Quote ="Conroy"Strange really considering that the exact same shirt last year was embroidered. (well, not exactly, it's the same as the St Helens, Wire, Wigan, Leeds, Hull etc etc shirts)'"
The difference in quality between this England shirt and last seasons Warrington shirt (which I also have, £2.99 JJB bargain!) is ridiculous. This England shirt is described as a 'Supporters' shirt though so this may be where the difference lies
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| Quote ="gutterfax"This is the way that all companies should deal with errors like this......and most in office supplies do.
It cultivates customer loyalty and also contributes to the delivery of a better service in the long run as the "free goods" you've just received come straight off their bottom line.'"
Exactly. The cost to them is peanuts as it would have cost them nearly as much to pay the return postage. For that they now have my loyalty as a preferred supplier and I will recommend them to my friends as well.
I was going to name the company but wasn't sure if that was allowed.
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| I ordered some black and white print cartridges from Kodak and they sent colour ones. When I rang them they apologized and sent the B+W ones. I asked about returning the colour ones and they said "don't bother, it's our mistake"
They also sent me a free printer head replacement, even though it was out of warranty.
I'd certainly buy from them again.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Was this the same "business manager" who got us such a good naming rights deal last year I wonder? Sounds like he has the credentials!'"
Unless he works for IMG and also moonlights as a chairman for all 14 Superleague clubs, I doubt it
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| Quote ="Finsbury Wire"Is it worth getting so worked up over a pound?
We could set up a postage hardship fund for you?'"
Doesn't matter if its a pound or a hundred, it still sends the message "we are a two bit outfit staffed by a bunch of clowns" ( I mean this isn't a kid in a call centre, but a supposed business development manager). Not that we need any more messages, one look at the bloke in charge is all that's needed.
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| It's also a matter of law. The Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended) clearly states that a buyer should not be out of pocket if the vendor has broken the contract of sale in any way.
Return postage 2nd class up to 750g is £2.20, up to 1kg is £3.50. Not a small amount of money so the 'pound' claim was BS.
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| Quote ="RLBandit"Doesn't matter if its a pound or a hundred, it still sends the message "we are a two bit outfit staffed by a bunch of clowns" ( I mean this isn't a kid in a call centre, but a supposed business development manager). Not that we need any more messages, one look at the bloke in charge is all that's needed.'"
I agree about the money, I'm sure the guy is not fussed about £1, it's the principle. If I was him I'd have asked for a full refund as opposed to the shirt, but I am hard faced about stuff like that.
Also, for the sake of a quid, look at the advertising this bloke has got in this thread - beyond stupid.
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| Quote ="RLBandit"Doesn't matter if its a pound or a hundred, it still sends the message "we are a two bit outfit staffed by a bunch of clowns" ( I mean this isn't a kid in a call centre, but a supposed business development manager). Not that we need any more messages, one look at the bloke in charge is all that's needed.'"
Flip it round, if when he made his initial order he'd said, oh btw, i CBA paying postage and packaging, would the RFL have even sent anything out in the first place? no they wouldn't.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Flip it round, if when he made his initial order he'd said, oh btw, i CBA paying postage and packaging, would the RFL have even sent anything out in the first place? no they wouldn't.'"
I don't follow what you're saying there. They send the wrong thing, they should pay for return postage, right? Doesn't seem controversial to me. Like I say, the amount is totally irrelevant, it's just about saying "sorry, our mistake, we'll fix it". Anything else looks really unprofessional, I can't think where they dragged up the bus. dev. guy if he's so stupid. TBH, I've seen some of the advertised salaries for posts with the RFL, and concluded that "If you pay peanuts...". FWIW, better to have half the staff numbers but pay for better ones, than twice as many if it means that most are amateur chumps.
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| I've probably quoted the wrong person, but yes, if in kid original transaction he said, I don't want to pay for p and p, they're not going to say, oh alright then. Much like they shouldn't be expecting him to foot the bill now
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| There aren't half some tight b******s around. I'm sure the OP's from Yorkshire.
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| Quote ="just_browny"There aren't half some tight b******s around. I'm sure the OP's from Yorkshire.'"
Nottinghamshire actually. Must be just about the only rugby league fan around these parts as well. I don't have a particular allegiance to any SL side having got into RL of my own accord over the last few seasons. I do however have a variety of different SL shirts that I often wear, almost every time they are mistaken for something else. I have recently been asked if I went to Chester University when wearing a Wire shirt (the enquirer had never heard of Warrington Wolves even though he is a reasonably big sports fan), and when wearing this seasons Castleford away shirt "do you go and watch the Panthers a lot?" (referring to Nottingham Panthers ice hockey team)
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| Quote ="ormian7"Nottinghamshire actually. Must be just about the only rugby league fan around these parts as well. I don't have a particular allegiance to any SL side having got into RL of my own accord over the last few seasons. I do however have a variety of different SL shirts that I often wear, almost every time they are mistaken for something else. I have recently been asked if I went to Chester University when wearing a Wire shirt (the enquirer had never heard of Warrington Wolves even though he is a reasonably big sports fan), and when wearing this seasons Castleford away shirt "do you go and watch the Panthers a lot?" (referring to Nottingham Panthers ice hockey team)'"
What, and with all that free Stobart advertising we got, can't believe it.
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