He can't be ashamed, he's trying to say he didn't do it

Give the little a ban for the rest of the Season, if he can't behave at Wembley, he can't behave at Old Trafford.

What Lee Smith did was much much worse. He got no ban, therefore Wigan shouldn't get a ban.

Would you say the same had it been Briers? No, thought not.

You lot wouldn't know real passion if it smacked you in the mouth,no wonder the game is going backwards.

I know how to contain myself, passion or no passion, millions were watching, some with their first taste of rugby league, and this is what we give them?

if that was anyones first taste of rl then they wont have been dissapointed,a really entertaining game,well done leeds for making it so.

Please don't conflate passion and petulance

do you allways answer the question yourself , for what its worth i said exactly the same when matt king done something simular at harlequins to the wire fans , only difference was matt king was man enough to make a public apoligy and not deny it

Where was the uproar when Myler and Mathers did it to the Wigan fans a couple years ago?

I voted no.

No.

He should be given a ticking off by his manager, nothing more.

Frankly, I don't blame him. An incredibly talented player treated like muck by jealous opposition fans.

It's striking how some people can fake outrage ("disgrace"icon_wink.gif in the hope of a bit of petty witch hunting. See the whole Jonathan Ross saga for previous example.

And why not look at Joel too? He also flicked the V's....

Shame on both of them

No.

Fans can and do treat players how they want - some with respect, others not.

The more he behaves like a pantomime villain the more he will be treated like one - he just needs to let his talent do the talking.

Flashings the V's at opposing fans, right in front of camera's of national TV (being viewed worldwide) is not the smartest thing he could have done. Just gives the RU loving beeb more chance to show us in a bad light.

Fine and or short ban.

That doesn't suit the anti Wigan argument. Off course Tomkins should never have done it but the level of hypocrisy on here by many opposition fans is staggering. No matter what happened today you would still be getting thread after thread of bitter fans having a dig at Wigan. We could have won 50-0 and some would still blame the ref, its quite funny how these fans can pick up every little decision that went Wigan's way but cant think of any that went Leeds way. The thing that annoys me most about RL fans is the level of bitterness and single minded attitude by many.

By the way has everyone actually seen it or have they just seen [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/14695413.stmthis[/url and decided to jump on anti Wigan bandwagon.

Fair enough and i do understand he needs to grow up a bit, but the way some are going on about it is ridiculous in itself,we'll be recalling parliament next.

Edited for accuracy. Wigan deserved to win yesterday - no doubt at all - but if you can't see that what Tomkins did was outrageous, petulant and far beneath acceptable professional conduct then it's you who should open your eyes. As someone else posted, if you go on TV representing your employer and make a V sign to the public in most professions you would be sacked.

I can see that, that kind of action is petulant and not once have I condoned it so not sure how I need to open my eyes.

It was a v sign, why should he be sacked, you wouldn't be saying this the other round you didn't say it when Myler and Mathers did it, which shows your single minded attitude. Its you who needs to open your eyes and accept that this has happened many times and far far worse things have happened.

What, jump on a wall?

"Someone else mentioned that to me," he said. "I really don't know what it is."

It's a rude gesture Tomkins you plonker, you aren't bigger than the game and you will be booed by all next England outing.

Unless someone takes a boot to Sam Tomkin's backside pdq, he's in great danger of ending up as one of the game's 'might have beens'.

I have no love of Wigan, but no - not worth a ban.



Anyway how can the RFL accuse anybody of bringing the game into disrepute, with their recent record?

Most are discussing this

And the fact it was discussed in the postmatch commentary.

in the Wigan vHKR game he threw the ball at the Rovers fans after scoring. Nothing was done. Seems he is above reproach