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| Quote ="Dunbar"With the magic of Sky+, I’ve just gone back to take another look at it
Orr gets the ball and Sa makes an effort to close him down and block the kick – at the last second he turns his back so it hits him on the backside
In my opinion, he made a deliberate effort to charge the ball down and the ref got it right'" Sa is running forwards,
He keeps on running forwards and turns his back and the ball hits him on the ar$e.
Bentham got it wrong.
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| I don't think Bentham had the best of games, but the OP isn't an example of this.
I thought Bentham wasn't very sharp on picking up some issues at the pay of the balls. It seemed that Cas were allowed to lay on and sometimes have a second dig in the tackle a fair few times. Also that penalty against Catalans for taking out Chase after a grubber close to the line towards the end of the match was a bit harsh.
The scrum five seconds from time was a farce. Bentham should really have let the clock down. But, then again Clarke did have a point saying Bentham should penalise Catalans for messing with the numbers in the scrum.
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| Quote ="Chorlton RL"The scrum five seconds from time was a farce. Bentham should really have let the clock down. But, then again Clarke did have a point saying Bentham should penalise Catalans for messing with the numbers in the scrum.'" Indeed but how many time did he warn Cas about pushing in the scrum before the ball was put in it.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Sa is running forwards,
He keeps on running forwards and turns his back and the ball hits him on the ar$e'"
Is that not a charge down though? Why does it matter that it's his arm or his ar$e?
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| Quote ="Roverswall"<snip>'"
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| Quote ="Gazemous"You lost, get over it'" We play tommorrow
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Indeed but how many time did he warn Cas about pushing in the scrum before the ball was put in it.'"
I think a lot of the issues with Bentham tonight can really be put down to interpretations. Some of the decisions or lack of could be down to him not being 100% tonight, but I think on the whole he just has a different interpretation of rules to other refs, players, commentators, fans. His interpretations aren't by any means as extreme as Childs though. Its part of the game and always has been and if anything makes match more interesting because it brings in a bit of controversy. Plus, it differentiates our code to the other one, a game ruined by rules.
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| he couldn't have let Catalan lay on any longer, get away with that many forward passes and stand a good yard in front of him at every play the ball if he tried!
Oh, and Sa jumped into the ball so he played at it, doesn't matter if his back was turned.
Shock horror it's Wakey fans on the main part complaining with a spattering of Dull KR fans.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"icon_eek.gif he couldn't have let Catalan lay on any longer, get away with that many forward passes and stand a good yard in front of him at every play the ball if he tried!
Oh, and Sa jumped into the ball so he played at it, doesn't matter if his back was turned.
Shock horror it's Wakey fans on the main part complaining with a spattering of Dull KR fans.
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I'm not complaining
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Shock horror it's Wakey fans on the main part complaining with a spattering of Dull KR fans.
'" 1 X Hull FC fan.
1 X Hull KR fan.
1 X Wakey fan.
1 X Quins fan.
Maybe you should have actually read the thread eh!
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| Quote ="Roverswall"1 X Hull FC fan.
2 X Hull KR fan.
3 X Wakey fan.
1 X Quins fan.
Maybe you should have actually read the thread eh!'"
There you go
Still, it's one of those where folk can't stand a "small" team being top boo hoo
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Cas kick the ball it cannons of Sa's ar$e without him even looking at the kicker and he is supposed to have played at it
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So what was he doing there - sightseeing? He knew the ball was going to be kicked, and so turned his back as he'd rather be twotted there than his front. Simple.
If he had not intended to block the kick, he would not have been running into position to do so, and more to the point, he would have ducked. I didn't see him duck.
Correct, and pretty basic, decision.
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| 4889 for a team who are top of SL and unbeaten with a 100% record. Oh dear.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"4889 for a team who are top of SL and unbeaten with a 100% record. Oh dear.'"
On a Saturday evening, on TV with £20 entrance fee (£10 if you got a Hull KR ticket) and against a team who brought probably 5 fans at the most so yeah, shocking crowd
Is it have a pop at Cas night? Sorry we're top of the table guys I know it should be Leeds, Wigan or St Helens and not Cas
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| I'd also question Bentham's penalty against Cas mid way through the second half. He decided that Jones put in a high shot after a good kick-chase. For me Jones went in low, but the the Catalans player was going down in the tackle, Jones made initial contact with the shoulder, but his arm ended up on the face. In the speed of the motion it seemed like a hit shot. That seemed harsh.
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| Quote ="Chorlton RL"I'd also question Bentham's penalty against Cas mid way through the second half. He decided that Jones put in a high shot after a good kick-chase. For me Jones went in low, but the the Catalans player was going down in the tackle, Jones made initial contact with the shoulder, but his arm ended up on the face. In the speed of the motion it seemed like a hit shot. That seemed harsh.'"
From what I've seen the last few years, they don't care if the initial contact was low first anymore, if it ends up high it's a penalty (when they can be bothered to pick up on it...)
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| Quote ="Gaslight"On a Saturday evening, on TV with £20 entrance fee (£10 if you got a Hull KR ticket) and against a team who brought probably 5 fans at the most so yeah, shocking crowd
Is it have a pop at Cas night? Sorry we're top of the table guys
I know it should be Leeds, Wigan or St Helens and not Cas
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Considering 1 of the requirements for a SL license is to have an average crowd of 10k then yeah it is a worry.
And no Leeds, Saints and even Wigan don't deserve to be top, Cas do as they have pulled out some good results. HTH
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| Quote ="Gaslight"On a Saturday evening, on TV with £20 entrance fee (£10 if you got a Hull KR ticket) and against a team who brought probably 5 fans at the most so yeah, shocking crowd
Is it have a pop at Cas night? Sorry we're top of the table guys
I know it should be Leeds, Wigan or St Helens and not Cas
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I'm not having a go at Cas. You're top of the table because you deserve to be there and you are playing some good stuff.
It's just 4889 for a team unbeaten so far and sitting top of the league? Wakey managed more than that last night, that was on a Friday night, on SKY, but also, Wakey aren't playing well at all and we all know about their off the field problems. Wire probably brought around 700.
Granted Les Catalans brought about 5 but what does that matter? This means there were 4884 home supporters.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"It's just 4889 for a team unbeaten so far and sitting top of the league? Wakey managed more than that last night, that was on a Friday night, on SKY, but also, Wakey aren't playing well at all and we all know about their off the field problems.'"
With discounted tickets, against Warrington who took a large following.
The local rag gave half price tickets out for the game which will have boosted figures...and the fact some Wakey fans are saying there was nowhere near 5k there.
Is the 8.5 last week against KR a better number for you?
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| Quote ="Dunbar"With the magic of Sky+, I’ve just gone back to take another look at it
Orr gets the ball and Sa makes an effort to close him down and block the kick – at the last second he turns his back so it hits him on the backside
In my opinion, he made a deliberate effort to charge the ball down and the ref got it right'"
What are the defenders meant to do on the 5th tackle, run backwards? Of course they were moving towards the player, its what you do when the ball is played. You tend to move towards the bloke with the ball too.
Awful decision.
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| Mark my words, there were more than 4800 in the ground tonight. Honest.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"With discounted tickets, against Warrington who took a large following.
The local rag gave half price tickets out for the game which will have boosted figures...and the fact some Wakey fans are saying there was nowhere near 5k there.
Is the 8.5 last week against KR a better number for you?'"
It should be consistent though. Whether it's on Sky or not.
Of course it's a better number but I bet HKR took a few. Like it's been pointed out, one of the criterias is; there must be a 10k average.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"What are the defenders meant to do on the 5th tackle, run backwards? Of course they were moving towards the player, its what you do when the ball is played. You tend to move towards the bloke with the ball too.
Awful decision.'"
The point is not that the defenders were moving forward, it is that Sa made a deliberate effort to block the kick
Good decision
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| Quote ="poppys mum"Mark my words, there were more than 4800 in the ground tonight. Honest.'"
Yes we know, 4889 is more than 4800
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| Quote ="pokerface"Yes we know, 4889 is more than 4800
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Bit more than that mr pokerface.
But who cares.....we are flying high
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