well done to the crusaders the table doesnt lie over the full season.

great effort from cas and those young guys milner,walker and arundel and many more that are coming through will get their play off games pretty soon if they stick together.

I'll take 9th and a team full of British talent then 8th with a team full of 3rd rate Aussies, but got to commend Noble for the job he's done.

Well said

finishing in the bottom half is not a great achievement, although the way this will be spun will be to "justify" Crusaders position in the Super league

What's annoying me is that we're attempting to fulfil what the RFL wanted from licensing - competitive, more homegrown players, strong business and community presence.

The only thing lets us down is the salary cap and the stadium.

Well done on reaching the play offs. Noble has done a grand job. Your quote doesnt put you in the best light though Im afraid. Not bothered where you play, not bothered if its 99% Australian or not. Expansion? I dont think so somehow. Expansion of Australia maybe but the club is about as welsh as Frankie boyle

What irks me most about Crusaders is the fact they dropped the young Welsh FB (who is a good player) for Schifoske who's like 40, that Welsh prop, Flower is it? looked good against England and didn't get a sniff this year, why not play these lads instead of signing Aussies who are 30+?

I think this is a stepping stone for Welsh Rugby League, I say we should bring in Scorps to tap into the South Welsh vs North Welsh Rivalry.

And a quick footnote to Cas. Always had a lot of time for the club and with some great youngsters coming through I hope the RFL dont ditch you at franchise time. Good, loyal following even when you were in the championship. Unlucky tonight.

Not sure this would work. After 12 months they would relocate to Flint with more aussies than in state of origin

Well done to the hierarchy of Super League for getting a broke two bit(dont mention the salary cap) club into the play offs by paying for most (probably all) the aussies wages and the mercenary coaching team of Brian Noble and John(cant see what he advises) Sharpe. well done and a pat on the back to all concerned at the expense of Cas.

well done crusaders

Sour grapes from some tonight. TOUGH! We are in the playoffs and we deserve it. Shame you guys have missed an awesome night in Wrexham. No one's spoiling our party! Cru Cru Crusaders. What a team! What a season! Doesn't matter what nationality, creed, colour or sexuality - those players have played their hearts out for the Crusaders and Wales. PROUD to be an ENGLISH Crusader!

Love it. I can deal with bitter angry fans all day. It's brilliant, because it means that we are doing something right. Crusaders played by the rules, and in their second season, have knocked "heartland" clubs out of the play-offs.

Can Castleford show me where all of these promising british players are in their team too? And i mean in the first team, not the reserves. As our reserves are pretty damn stocked with welsh talent.

Hey ted is in here, laters ted you loser. Same to you broster, you are still a joke, and poor old gaslight. Who resorted to slagging off the crusaders when he noticed that we might have a franchise over them. Thanks mate, see you next year mwhahahaha!!!

The young fullback may be a good player but i've seen Schifoske play for Crusaders this year when they played down here against us.
He has a lot of skill, he will teach the young fullback alot while he is at Crusaders.

You are the perfect example of a johnny come lately rugby fan. No perspective for what "heartland" clubs have done in the numerous years they have existed before your plastic charade of a club has flitted from one end of wales to another. Yet again, the 2 lowest crowds of the week were Harlequins and the nomads. Viva expansion. Enjoy your one extra game this season.

Richard Owen
Michael Shenton
Joe Arundal
Jordan Thompson
Craig Huby
Adam Milner
Oliver Holmes
Jonathan Walker
Joe Westerman
Nathan Massey

+ Brett Ferres is from Cas, as well as other English players: Kirk Dixon, Michael Wainwright, Ryan Hudson and Steve Snitch, Paul Jackson

Have all played first team this year, most of them getting regular game time, then there's probably one or two I forgot somewhere.

That leaves Chase, McGoldrick, Sargent (who's going home), Widders and Evans (oft injured, probably getting released) as overseas.

Next year Cas trained Danny Orr is back + Richard Mathers, Jake Emmitt and Nick Fozzard (rumoured) to be in bringing in more English players with only Youngquest coming in for the quota.

Gosh this news that the crusaders made the top 8,has overtaken yawnion for the first time.

I've been a fan of the saints since I was born. There goes your johny come lately fan. Was 5200 the lowest crowd of the week? guess that's a good sign for rugby league then.

You missed off John Davies from your list, who has played this season, and Billy Harris, who has just been given a full-time professional deal too.

no 3200 in london. fan of who since you was born?

I asked for first team players, not players that have played 20 minutes off the bench in a call up. God you heartlands teams love doing that. Ah yes, Johnny from down the road played the last 10 minutes of game 2 in the season. Bringing through the youngsters see, it's a bit of a farce really.

Welsh Players, playing in the crusaders this season.
Elliot Kear - played early in the season, looks to be a lock next year.
Ben Flower - played in a number of games this year
Gareth Thomas - played most of the season before injury
Lloyd White - first call up in injury to half backs
Luke Dyer - played all season
Jordan James - played all season
Anthony Blackwood - Now transferred
Rhys Hanbury - Will be Qualified as welsh

English Players playing for the crusaders this season.
Tommy Lee - played in every game he was able too
Jamie Thackary - same as above
Peter Lupton - played in every game this year

The crusaders, for what everyone says, are not full of aussies. Yes we have a large majority of australian players, because we need them. The scorpions are 99% welsh, and made the play-offs this year. Couple of them look very promising for up and coming years.

We have yet to name any signings, but it looks like stuart reardon is on his way.

and fan of st helens. Are you blind?

and you support crusaders now?

Are both Aussies, no 2 ways about it

if we go for "qualified as Welsh" then James Evans doesn't count at Cas because he's "Welsh"