GAME ON : St.Helens v Castleford Tigers - 18:00:00

GENERAL CHAT ABOUT THE GAME, BUILD UP, THE ACTION AS IT HAPPENS AND AFTERMATH BELOW.

The Entertainers v Classy Cas. Should be a magnificent game, unlike Wigan v Wire - shouldnt it??

Saints 1-4
Cas 4-1
Draw 22-1

Looks like a stuffing.

That was brilliantly set up try by Roby.

He is still a great player and the best hooker in SL.

Has their ever been a bigger flat bully in SL than Lomax who doesn’t/can’t do anything in crucial games but pops up on occasions like this to look good?

Also god help Saints when Roby retires, they’ve had the luxury of 2 world class hookers for over 20 years. When Roby retires unless they come up with a big replacement they’ll drop like a stone, he elevates everyone around him and makes them look better than they actually are.

Noticeable difference already with Roby in the sin bin.

Powell's not going to invade the pitch again is he?

Honestly if he got a season ending injury now then Saints wouldn’t win either of the 2 major finals (again)

I think you should watch more of young Aaron Smith before any assumptions are made.

We shut up shop and suckered Cas into going set for set during the sin bin - honestly amazed Cas didn’t go into Basketball mode

Wellens would be proud of that arm flapping from Paulo.

After the outrage last week at the bobble in the act of scoring I can only assume this forum will share Paulos frustration.

You know sod all about the Saints structure, Morgan Knowles and Arron Smith are good enough if we play as a team. Roby has missed plenty of games and been benched a few times this season, its Walmsley, Thompson and LMS who are giving our hookers quick PTB's once we are back to full strength Knowles, Smith and Roby will always play well off the back of it.

I know enough that if Roby gets injured then you aren’t winning any of the major finals whether you want to accept that or not.

I think you have been watching too much dross from your own side to think the Saints are a one man team, everyone said the same thing when Barba left us. Our current structure means nothing will change so much, we will still be throwing the same shapes and movement whoever is our hooker, Roby will tell you that himself.

Is Powell going to mention injuries ever post match conference?

They said they same when Barba was here...how did it end up for you when he stopped trying when he got his NRL deal?

There were more missed Castleford tackles in the first half, than there were missing Castleford players.

This match made increasingly clear that a full strength Catalans team is the only club that can beat St. Helens, as happened in the Challenge Cup semi-final last year.

what do you get out of coming on here embarrassing yourself like this? It’s sad really.

Just gotta give saints lots of credit. They mentally defeated us in the first 15 minutes when we were camped on their line but we couldn't break through and they intercepted and pretty much scored 2 tries on their first 2 visits to our red zone. Tremendous team. I thought we tried our knackers off and ultimately we aren't good enough. Every so often you just have to say a team are better than you and hold your hands up.

Good post, not often you hear RL fans acknowledging the other team as being genuienly better. Usually totally the fault of their own team or the match officials. I agree with you, Cas had a real go today and would have beaten most teams in Super League. Scary when you think Saints still have Luke Thompson, Kyle Amor and Mark Percival to add back to that side today.

I agree and to be honest we've had a couple of weeks were we have not been outstanding, but from experience a season is a long time.

In a one off game we can still get over turned. (I think Salford showed that last week)

I'm glad we have a top 5 format as that gives the top 2 that second bite at the cherry that other formats lack and sometimes saints have needed that.

Still a long way to go.

An easy KO win for Walsmley in his anticipated clash against watts. Showed that watts still has a bit to go until he can be considered in the same class.

Fair play to cas though. Never stopped trying and never gave up. Always going to be difficult with so many players out injured

To be fair Walmsley had an accomplish in Morgan Knowles who bashed Watts at times before he could get in his stride. Really good player though Watts has an enormous work rate. Cas are not far off, a bit more composure and less errors and they will beat most teams they have still got plenty of games to get up to 3rd place.