Toronto showed so far that they are superior to Halifax at Halifax but close in quality to Hull KR at Toronto.

Toulouse have shown that they cannot compete with Leeds at Leeds but are far superior to Halifax in Toulouse.

London have shown that they are superior to Widnes at Widnes.

I guess we will have a better idea after London hosts Leeds on Sunday 19th August and when London play Toronto in Toronto on September 1.

My guess is that the final ranking will be:

1. Leeds
2. Salford
3. Hull KR
=#FF00004. Toronto *
5. Toulouse or London *
6,. Toulouse or London
7. Widnes
8. Halifax

* = MPG

I'd be more concerned with how Toronto deal with that defeat,before making predictions.

That was quite a respectable defeat. Any other team playing HKR and it would be a non-issue....Hull KR have had 123 years, Toronto, about 3....

What utter drivel.......Toronto are nowt more than a bunch of average RL players with the same pedigree as Fax, Fev or HKR.......they are the RFL's version of Melbourne Storm having been given every assistance available.....they offer nothing to the gme other than a different home for has been players and £1.8 million of sky cash....and as for the announced gate last night.......there weren't 4k there last night!
To answer the OP......toronto will most likely go up.....and then you'll see exactly what the emperor is wearing!

And yet completely irrelevant as to points

123 years win. 2 Points

3 years experience nul points.

The points number is more important than the years in the league.

Personally I would love to see Toronto come up

Formed in 1882

With Widnes in freefall, there is a real prospect of the MPG being between 2 Championship clubs.
The winning side will be the one that prepares the best and with the main contenders being Toronto, London and Toulouse.
Home draw will be critical therefore, achieving 4th place in the qualifiers is key.

On this basis, you'd have to fancy Toronto but, they do seem very similat (in more ways than one) to the Leigh team that , having smashed everything and everyone in The Championship, then failed to gain promotion.

It could all get mighty interesting, although, I'm sure that there may be a different plan to get them into SL anyway.

What assistance have Toronto been given?

I don't think Toronto will be too bothered by yesterday's defeat. They only need to finish above their fellow champ clubs to be in the mpg and I believe they play both Toulouse and London at home, so they should be winning those games.
Widnes looked dire against Salford and could very well finish 6th - 8th at the final standings. If this happens then it's a very real possibility that Toronto will find themselves with the prospect of a home game against another championship side to gain SL status.

What utter drivel.......indeed.

Nought, nil, nada, nothing, zero, zilch and zip.

I may be wrong but weren't Toronto given exemption from the salary cap for their first two years as a team, like when Catalans started (That allowed them to sign players like Stacey Jones)

No, you are wrong

For 2017 the C1 SC was increased to the lower of 50% of (relevant) income or £1.85m.

Literally everything you just said is wrong, almost impressive really

What I would like to know is if they go into superleague were are the 20+ quality players going to come from to replace these existing average players.

Widnes.

I did say quality players, at the moment Toronto have a lot of ex Leigh, Salford and Saints rejects around 10 players at the last count. Will they be really an expansionist team if there are no canadian players in it.


Another alternative is to change the name of Widnes to Toronto that would save a lot of logistic hassle.

When football teams get promoted to the Premiership do they suddenly have a full squad of Premier League quality players straight away?

That doesn't my question though were are these players coming from. If like in the premiership they don't get them they will go back down again.

It's a problem for whichever side goes up really. The player pool for the whole sport just isn't big enough. Which is why we keep seeing the same players turning out in these middle 8 fixtures, just in different team colours each year.

By recruiting them. You try and make out like they should or need to get 20+ players by the time of their first SL season when that never happens in any sport. If they can get several in first season and build from there year on year.

I think the O.P. is being a little presumptuous regarding Widnes's demise.

Sure they should've beaten London & were easily second best against Salford, but I still think they're capable of beating Toronto, Toulouse & Halifax, which would put them in the mix for the M.P.G. (Shudder)

We will see. I predict that either Toronto or Toulouse, perhaps both, will beat Widnes.

Yep got to agree, tough to see them winning both (or even one) of those as they’re both away and Widnes are 0-12 away from home this year with an average score around 13-31