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only the 4th Englishman to have one the award
1984 Wally Lewis (Australia)
1985 Brett Kenny (Australia)
1986 Garry Jack (Australia)
1987 Hugh McGahan MBE (New Zealand) Shared
1987 Peter Sterling (Australia) Shared
1988 Ellery Hanley (Great Britain)
1989 Mal Meninga (Australia)
1990 Garry Schofield (Great Britain)
1999 Andrew Johns (Australia)
2000 Brad Fittler (Australia)
2001 Andrew Johns (Australia)
2002 Stacey Jones (New Zealand)
2003 Darren Lockyer (Australia)
2004 Andrew Farrell (Great Britain)
2005 Anthony Minichiello (Australia)
2006 Darren Lockyer (Australia)
2007 Cameron Smith (Australia)
2008 Billy Slater (Australia)
2009 Greg Inglis (Australia)
2010 Benji Marshall (New Zealand)
2011 Johnathan Thurston (Australia)
2012 Kevin Sinfield (Great Britain)
Well done Kevin 
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only the 4th Englishman to have one the award
1984 Wally Lewis (Australia)
1985 Brett Kenny (Australia)
1986 Garry Jack (Australia)
1987 Hugh McGahan MBE (New Zealand) Shared
1987 Peter Sterling (Australia) Shared
1988 Ellery Hanley (Great Britain)
1989 Mal Meninga (Australia)
1990 Garry Schofield (Great Britain)
1999 Andrew Johns (Australia)
2000 Brad Fittler (Australia)
2001 Andrew Johns (Australia)
2002 Stacey Jones (New Zealand)
2003 Darren Lockyer (Australia)
2004 Andrew Farrell (Great Britain)
2005 Anthony Minichiello (Australia)
2006 Darren Lockyer (Australia)
2007 Cameron Smith (Australia)
2008 Billy Slater (Australia)
2009 Greg Inglis (Australia)
2010 Benji Marshall (New Zealand)
2011 Johnathan Thurston (Australia)
2012 Kevin Sinfield (Great Britain)
Well done Kevin
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If anyone saw Barba or Smith play last year and thinks Sinfield is better, they need their head looking at.
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| Quote ="rufio"If anyone saw Barba or Smith play last year and thinks Sinfield is better, they need their head looking at.'"
im guessing that the committee of world RL experts that decided the winner saw all of them play |
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| Quote ="rufio"If anyone saw Barba or Smith play last year and thinks Sinfield is better, they need their head looking at.'"
I thought Barba was going to win it, mind you he won nothing else apart from the plate when you look at it, didn't even get a cap. While Sinfield won the WCC, Grand Final, 4 Nations, Harry Sunderland trophy, became the Leeds al time points scorer, and got given the England captaincy. |
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"I thought Barba was going to win it, mind you he won nothing else apart from the plate when you look at it, didn't even get a cap. While Sinfield won the WCC, Grand Final, 4 Nations, Harry Sunderland trophy, became the Leeds al time points scorer, and got given the England captaincy.'"
and poor old cam smith had a bad season?....sinfield has been great for leeds but to say he is the worlds best is just so wrong
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I'd like to know who has voted for this? Don't they have as many Australian journalists on the panel these days?
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| Quote ="adelaide-giant.no9"and poor old cam smith had a bad season?....sinfield has been great for leeds but to say he is the worlds best is just so wrong
won state of origin as captain
won aussie games as captain
won grand final as captain...'"
Whoa there! I didn't say I thought Sinfield would win it or should win it, i'm just saying the judges might see it that way, for me Cam Smith is the best player in the world bar none.
The reason I thought Barba would win it is because he was the player I looked forward to watching the most when I turned on the games, and I reckon that was the case for a lot of people. |
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Whoa there! I didn't say I thought Sinfield would win it or should win it, i'm just saying the judges might see it that way, for me Cam Smith is the best player in the world bar none.
The reason I thought Barba would win it is because he was the player I looked forward to watching the most when I turned on the games, and I reckon that was the case for a lot of people.'"
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Let the Ignorant claim they know best over the judges.
Sir Kevin is a Legend!
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Great for Kev, superb for the Rhinos, tremendous for the country.
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| Quote ="adelaide-giant.no9"barba did have a great year...and is better than sinfield
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ok lets see Barba play 6 and lead his team around the park and kick the other teams to death and convert match winning touchline conversions.
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Like I said, Barba was really exciting to watch last year, that's why I thought he might win it, but he's still only the 3rd best Aussie full back at the moment.
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Smith has 2 of the best players in the world around him in cronk and slater as well as other top class stars like Hoffman. Not to mention arguabley the worlds best coach. More so with QLD & Australia
The Leeds squad as good as it is doesn't offer that support to Sinfield.
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| Quote ="thaiad24"ok lets see Barba play 6 and lead his team around the park and kick the other teams to death and convert match winning touchline conversions.
comparing Smith and Sinfield ok but a non kicking fullback to Sinfield is pointless'"
Someone doing that has to be a good player. However, SL is almost like semi pro compared to NRL. That would be like choosing a Championship part timer for the best English player over all the SL players.
If Sinfield had done all that at test level against the Aussies or if the WCC wasn't a trial game for the Aussies then I would have picked him myself. However Leeds only played half a dozen games that could be put in the same bracket intensity wise as what the Aussie teams do. |
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Looking at the previous winners, it has to be said Sinfield is the weakest one of the bunch.
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It's like when Michelle McManus won Pop Idol.
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To be fair, he played the best captain's knock I'd seen in years in Leeds' play-off run. At least by a British player.
But this is a bit like when Giggs won Sports Personality of the Year to me. Feels like recognition for his magnificent efforts over the paste 10 years rather than his outstanding displays in 2012.
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A worthy winner, I'm ashamed to say I once doubted his ability.
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I personally disagree with it, for me it's Smith or Barba. But I don't care, an Englishman getting reward playing in England... times are changing. We should be shouting this from the rooftops, let the world know that in the World Cup year, the BEST PLAYER in the world happens to be our captain! The RFL should bang the drum on this one!
In reality it matters very little to the vast majority of RL fans, but who knows, we may get a bit more coverage and a bit more interest on the back of it to try and drag in new spectators. Every little bit of good news, and every picture we can get spread across a newspaper or television screen is a little bit of knowledge for anyone that passes across it
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"I personally disagree with it, for me it's Smith or Barba. But I don't care, an Englishman getting reward playing in England... times are changing. We should be shouting this from the rooftops, let the world know that in the World Cup year, the BEST PLAYER in the world happens to be our captain! The RFL should bang the drum on this one!
In reality it matters very little to the vast majority of RL fans, but who knows, we may get a bit more coverage and a bit more interest on the back of it to try and drag in new spectators. Every little bit of good news, and every picture we can get spread across a newspaper or television screen is a little bit of knowledge for anyone that passes across it'"
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Read my post re Smith. Same goes for Barba too.'"
Smith and Barba don't play against London, Salford or Widnes. With respect |
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"Smith and Barba don't play against London, Salford or Widnes. With respect'"
Or Parramatta. |
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Or Parramatta.'"
I'd bet my mortgage on Parra beating Widnes. Actually, I'd bet Parra would beat Widnes and Salford together!
My point being, there is no hiding the fact that the NRL has more quality and is a tougher competition in the weekly rounds, and to produce such levels of consistant brilliance is staggering. I have nothing against Sinfield, born winner, but best in the world... I have to disagree. |
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Fair play to him. Although I am surprised Barba didn't win it. He was on a different planet to everyone else.
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"I'd bet my mortgage on Parra beating Widnes. Actually, I'd bet Parra would beat Widnes and Salford together! '"
In the driving rain, chemical air, freezing cold and on a plastic pitch? |
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