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Graham finds out his fate tonight Australian time.
The costume he is wearing in the pic does not really work
BILLY Slater does not need to give evidence at Thursday night's judiciary hearing because the biting case against Bulldogs prop James Graham is considered so compelling that he is tipped to receive one of the longest bans in NRL history.
A distraught Graham is expected to plead guilty to the ungraded contrary conduct charge after being referred directly to the tribunal to answer allegations by Slater that the England star bit his ear in the 26th minute of Sunday's grand final.
By not grading the charge, the match review committee has indicated that the incident was worse than a grade-five offence, which would have seen Graham facing a seven-match ban. There are suggestions the suspension could ''go down in the annals of history as one of the longest ever''.
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Graham finds out his fate tonight Australian time.
The costume he is wearing in the pic does not really work
BILLY Slater does not need to give evidence at Thursday night's judiciary hearing because the biting case against Bulldogs prop James Graham is considered so compelling that he is tipped to receive one of the longest bans in NRL history.
A distraught Graham is expected to plead guilty to the ungraded contrary conduct charge after being referred directly to the tribunal to answer allegations by Slater that the England star bit his ear in the 26th minute of Sunday's grand final.
By not grading the charge, the match review committee has indicated that the incident was worse than a grade-five offence, which would have seen Graham facing a seven-match ban. There are suggestions the suspension could ''go down in the annals of history as one of the longest ever''.
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| A tad hysterical if they do hand out a huge ban. There are far worse offences on a rugby field than the damage Graham inflicted. I've seen several players have their jaws shattered by deliberate leading elbows (Moriarty on Waddell for example) which were far worse in their intent and outcome than Graham's offence. Not saying he doesn't deserve a decent ban, but a bit of perspective would be good.
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| has there ever been a biting case in Super league? I remember Cas V Whitehaven when Brad Davis accused Carl Sice (sp) of biting, but I think that was more gamesmanship to delay the clock. Billy the kid is the golden boy in Oz though, wouldn't surprise me to see Jammer get a big un.
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| Sam Tomkins accused Ryan Hudson of biting him earlier this season
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| Quite often the allegations are removed because the player who gets bitten has to provide pretty much all the evidence, and not many want to do that in the cold light of day. The difference in this case is that Graham was clearly visible going for Slater's ear on national TV.
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| When at Huddersfield, Chris Thorman was called to Red Hall to answer a charge of biting. The club used the doctor in evidence to successfully prove that where the bite marks were, the victims fingers were that far down Thormans throat that an involuntary reflex had been been triggered.
I don't think Gnasher Graham can use the same defence though.
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Canterbury prop James Graham will plead not guilty to a biting charge at the NRL judiciary on Thursday night.
Graham was on Monday charged with an ungraded dangerous contact offence for allegedly biting the left ear of Melbourne fullback Billy Slater in Sunday’s grand final loss to the Storm.
The issue was deemed serious enough to be referred straight to the NRL judiciary.
But by choosing to plead not guilty today, Graham is not eligible for a more lenient sentence should he be found guilty.
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Graham is in danger of copping a hefty suspension of up to three months which could rule him out for the first 10 rounds of next season.
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Canterbury prop James Graham will plead not guilty to a biting charge at the NRL judiciary on Thursday night.
Graham was on Monday charged with an ungraded dangerous contact offence for allegedly biting the left ear of Melbourne fullback Billy Slater in Sunday’s grand final loss to the Storm.
The issue was deemed serious enough to be referred straight to the NRL judiciary.
But by choosing to plead not guilty today, Graham is not eligible for a more lenient sentence should he be found guilty.
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Graham is in danger of copping a hefty suspension of up to three months which could rule him out for the first 10 rounds of next season.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"A tad hysterical if they do hand out a huge ban. There are far worse offences on a rugby field than the damage Graham inflicted. I've seen several players have their jaws shattered by deliberate leading elbows (Moriarty on Waddell for example) which were far worse in their intent and outcome than Graham's offence. Not saying he doesn't deserve a decent ban, but a bit of perspective would be good.'"
But it is not just about the extent of the damage done.
Its the intent and how it reflects on the game, high shots happen, players run in with raised elbows but that can be questionable technique or a dozen other things that occasionally leads to a bad injury, if it is a clear cut an assault on a player the injured player can pursue the matter in the Courts for damages and have been rubbed out of the game in Australia at least.
Its hard to accidentally bite some one is the point I am trying to make, if you think a small cut is not an issue would it change your mind if the recipient picked up Hepatitis or more serious lifelong condition from a bite?
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| Quote ="Towns88"has there ever been a biting case in Super league? I remember Cas V Whitehaven when Brad Davis accused Carl Sice (sp) of biting, but I think that was more gamesmanship to delay the clock. Billy the kid is the golden boy in Oz though, wouldn't surprise me to see Jammer get a big un.'"
Elliot Whitehead got 5 games for biting at the end of last year. Mitigating circumstances (he was concussed when he did it) reduced the ban slightly otherwise he'd have been looking at 8 matches.
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| The fact that the Slater isn’t even needed at the judiciary and the incident hasn’t been graded, it doesn’t look good for Graham and I expect a very lengthy ban. I know it shouldn’t influence the decision but, if he is found guilty I believe the ban will be more severe due to the incident occurring in the GF.
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| Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"The fact that the Slater isn’t even needed at the judiciary and the incident hasn’t been graded, it doesn’t look good for Graham and I expect a very lengthy ban. I know it shouldn’t influence the decision but, if he is found guilty I believe the ban will be more severe due to the incident occurring in the GF.'"
I agree on all counts.
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| It isn't done and dusted yet.
Graham is pleading not guilty.
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| He isn't guilty. Slater should be up and a Doctor should be providing impartial evidence. My take is that Graham was sledging him and his head was pushed making contact with the ear. I have been bitten on a RL field and it didn't look anything like the Slater pic - whinging Con that he is.
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| i think jammers defence is gonna be just that..
he's giving slater a ear full,verbally, and the melbourne number 4 pulls his head and teeth towards slaters ear...causing the cut...
he'll do well to get away with that defence though imo
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| Blatant case of ear to mouth.
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"i think jammers defence is gonna be just that..
he's giving slater a ear full,verbally, and the melbourne number 4 pulls his head and teeth towards slaters ear...causing the cut...
he'll do well to get away with that defence though imo'"
I don't know how you shout or sledge, but most people have to do it without locking their teeth together. If his head was pushed into Slater there's still no need to bite down, and I can't see how a gumshielded open mouth pushed from very short range can either cause that cut or be confused by the receiver with a bite.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"I don't know how you shout or sledge, but most people have to do it without locking their teeth together. If his head was pushed into Slater there's still no need to bite down, and I can't see how a gumshielded open mouth pushed from very short range can either cause that cut or be confused by the receiver with a bite.'"
I repeat having been bitten that is not a bite, a contact, maybe a sexually motivated nibble, but not a bite.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"I don't know how you shout or sledge, but most people have to do it without locking their teeth together. If his head was pushed into Slater there's still no need to bite down, and I can't see how a gumshielded open mouth pushed from very short range can either cause that cut or be confused by the receiver with a bite.'"
like i said i think thats the angle his defense will take....
and how do you know his teeth are locked together? you can't see his teeth....its also plausible that he took his gumshield out after the try was scored?
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| What is the longest ban for an on-field incident?
John Hopoate got a 12 weeks ban and later a 17 game ban for his high profile incidents .
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| Les Boyd got 12 months for an elbow that broke Brohmans jaw then 15 months for eye gouging, he moved to England.
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| I got bitten in a game against Scarborough last year. It was on the left side of my lower back as I was being tackled by three players. I told the ref. He said you couldn't tell it was a bite mark despite there being teeth marks on my back and the hooker on my team seeing the incident. Nothing got done. He didn't even put it in the match report. Letter from the club sent to the RFL with a picture. No reply.
It seems biting is allowed in the amateur game.
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"What is the longest ban for an on-field incident?
John Hopoate got a 12 weeks ban and later a 17 game ban for his high profile incidents .'"
you mean when he fingered other blokes bums??
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| Could Graham be about to do a Travis Burns and run back to SL if he kops a ban??
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| Quote ="Buggo"Les Boyd got 12 months for an elbow that broke Brohmans jaw then 15 months for eye gouging, he moved to England.'"
I think you will find both incidents were a case of mistaken identity.
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| Real shame as Graham has had a cracking season, arguably the best forward in the NRL this year yet now all he will be rembered for is this. He will carry it around his neck like an albatross and don't be surprised to see him back in SL in a year or two when he gets sick of the bad feeling towards him.
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