From what you have seen this season so far what would be your starting 17, mine would be

Tomkins
George
Cudjoe
Atkins
Charnley
McGuire/Finch (Im sure he must have an English great great great grandad!!)
Brough
Morley
Roby
Burgess
Hock
Ellis
Westwood

Burrow
Mossop
Sinfield
Crabtree

Cudjoe in front of Watkins in the centres?

Off the top of my head...

1 Tomkins
2 Hall
3 Atkins
4 Watkins
5 Jones-Bishop
6 Widdop
7 Brough
8 Morley
9 Roby
10 Graham
11 Ellis
12 Westwood
13 Sinfield

S S.Burgess
S Peacock
S Hock
S Mossop

Tomkins
Hall
Watkins
Atkins
Hardaker
Sinfield
Brough
Lynch
Burrow
Graham
Westwood
Tickle
Brown

Peacock
Hock
Hill
Houghton

1.Tomkins
2.Hall
3.Watkins
4.Atkins
5.Briscoe
6.Widdop
7.Chase
8.Morley
9.Roby
10.Graham
11.Westwood
12.Ellis
13.Sinfield

14.Burrow
15.Peacock
16.Hill
17.Mossop

1. Tomkins
2. Hall
3. Watkins
4. Atkins
5. Charnley
6. Widdop
7. Brough
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess
11. Westwood
12. Ellis
13. Sinfield/O'loughlin

14. Mossop
15. Burrow
16. Sinfield/O'Loughlin
17. Patrick

Water Carrier. Ryan Bailey

Not seen any NRL so not sure of current form and I would assume they won't be coming over mid season for exiles

1 Sam Tomkins

2 Ryan Hall
3 Leroy Cudjoe
4 Callum Watkins
5 Josh Charnley

6 Danny McGuire
7 Danny Brough

8 Adrian Morley
9 James Roby
10 Jamie Peacock
11 Jamie Jones Bucannan ( injured now but was playing brilliant back soon)
12 Ben Westwood
13 Carl Ablett

Not seen any NRL so not sure of current form and I would assume they won't be coming over mid season for exiles

1 Sam Tomkins

2 Ryan Hall
3 Leroy Cudjoe
4 Callum Watkins
5 Josh Charnley

6 Danny McGuire
7 Danny Brough

8 Adrian Morley
9 James Roby
10 Jamie Peacock
11 Jamie Jones Bucannan ( injured now but was playing brilliant back soon)
12 Ben Westwood
13 Carl Ablett

Tickle, sinfield in and around the team, among others

not one player from the team who are top of the league?

I do wish people would stop saying Widdop should play. Christ. Just because he plays in Australia doesnt mean he's better than what we have here, as his performances for England have shown already.

Tomkins
Hall
Watkins
Reed
Briscoe/Charnley
Widdop/Sinfield
Brough
Burgess
Roby
Peacock (he will play because he is captain)
Ellis
Westwood
Lockers

Hock
Mossop
Crabtree
Burrow

I cant believe there is a second row in better form than Tickle. Never has a bad game anyway but has stepped it up another level this season.

International players need to fit a certain mould. They need to be tough, hard hitting, aggressive. Scoring a lot of points is not enough to get into the the England team IMO. Wilkin is a very good player in super league at times, but would he match the aussies up front? Not a chance. Tickle lacks the xfactor an international needs.

He is not even close to the other second rowers anyway.

Watkins for Atkins. O'Loughlin for Westwood, Westwood for Crabtree, Hall for Charnley.

Always has been very underrated imo. Not saying he's the best 2nd rower but deserves a place in the 17.

Tickle may be in the running, but is his new form good enough to elevate him above the likes of Ablett, JJB, Wilkin etc and compete with Ellis, Westwood and Burgess who will be the obvious candidates? I like Tickle but always thought he was a bit small for England. At least Hock has the size, although not seen enough of him this year to comment - in past seasons he was something of a liability at times.

Wilkin isn't remotely good enough for England and had shown that every time he's played.

Tomkins
Charnley
Cudjoe
Watkins
Hall
McGuire
Brough
Morley
Robinson
Peacock
Burgess
Ellis
Sinfield

Crabtree
Burrow
Hock
Westwood

I also can't understand the fest over Ablett - dont see what the Leeds fans rave about. Dependable yes, international class - no

I cannot believe the amount of people that arent including O Loughlin, if you had the pleasure to watch him week in, week out he'd be the first name on your teamsheet.

Nothing to do with his points scoring. He hits and runs as hard as anyone, has a great engine and knows how to run a line. His goal kicking is just a bonus. Not as good as Westwood and Ellis maybe, but certainly good enough for the bench.

+1

Tomkins
Charnley
Watkins
Atkins
Hall
??? Sinfield, Lomax, Chase, Widdop ....
Brough
Graham
Roby
Burgess
Westwood
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Burrow
Mossop
Morley
Hock

Thats what i'd go with at the moment. Really struggling to pick a 6, we still lack and depth in the halfs. The depth in the backs is getting much better could quite easily throw in McGillvary, Cudjoe, Lawrence, Reed, Briscoe.

Sinfield has been shown to lack it at international level. Lomax can't do it at club level.
Chase, maybe. Widdop, needs to be on for more than 5 minutes.

As for O'Loughlin...well I can say the same thing about Kev Brown, I watch him week in and week out and he is class.

Regarding the bench, I can't believe I've missed off Larne Patrick. Scores tries for fun. Power of a prop, speed of a halfback.

Tickle is a big lad mate, I saw hull play in the flesh on Sunday for the first time in a couple of years and was surprised how big he is. I think only Andy Lynch and Sam Moa looked bigger than him in Hulls team. He's definitely bigger than JJB and I don't think I'd be surprised if he was bigger than Ablett and Hock too. I'd be the first to admit I haven't seen much of JJB or Ablett for a while but I don't think tickle would look out of place at international level. I hope he gets a chance.