Sin bins Jamie Foster for standing offside but nothing to Elima for that? Ridiculous lack of bottle from Silverwood, he has been truly awful tonight, for both teams.

As Keith Senior noted in 2010, the players have a considerable lack of respect for him.

He tells Elima he wants to hear no more or he is off, then Elima speaks to him again, should have pulled the card at that point too

Worst ref in the comp IMO but Saints wouldn't have won with anyone else. Just one of those games as they say.

I agree, both sides were terrible, but we were more so.

TBF, it looked to be for the professional foul, rather than just standing offside.



I'm sure the disciplinary panel will pick it up.

Agreed, but that won't help Saints.

It was a ridiculous decision to give Saints a penalty in the first place. He hadn't blown the whistle for a knock-on. Elima is entitled to go into that tackle. I believe he was penalised for "running in aggressively".
It was also a ridiculous decision to give the 8 point try. Foster is entitled to try and kick a loose ball.

Don't worry, I am sure he will make up for it on 30th March.

Wasn't quite loose though was it? Whitehead had the ball in his hands long enough for Foster to pull out of the kick. Anyway it didn't make any difference so what you gonna do

He is entitled to try, but if he does so in a manner that causes him to connect with someone's face then he has acted carelessly and has committed a foul, imo. I'd also add that "loose" is a contentious term in this context.

Whitehead had the ball in is hands, split second and no malice from what i saw but its the correct call.

I'm not that interested in helping Saints...





It helped no more than the recent Moa/Lee decisions helped the teams they were playing against. There might be a case to answer for Foster's boot, too. I'd expect that one to end sin bin sufficient, though.

There was no malice in it at all though, he was clearly trying to clear the ball. A lot of people may not like Foster but he is not that type of player. Careless yes, malicious no. A talking to would have been sufficient.

...... and how did he miss the forward pass in Saints try move? .........

Yeah it was a mile forward, as I said, he had a truly awful game.

You mean the Moa one where he got sent off?

Yep.



I could try and save face by saying London still lost...

When Puletua bombed the try Silverwood was bundled over by a Bulls defender.

Will there be any bans for that and can anyone help Silverwood sort out his awful positioning?

You do know you aren't allowed to use your feet, right?

Clear 8 point try and he should get a ban for it too.

You are. It's called kicking and you are allowed to clear the ball with a kick.


Stupid comment.

There was nothing in the Foster one at all. He barely flicked his leg out to try to kick the ball, it was a daft decision and he won't get anything approaching a ban.

Elima should get a ban, attacked the head and very late.

The 8 point try was spot on, the try had already been scored, the boot made contact with the head. Careless, dangerous and rightly penalised. You can kick out to clear the ball, but not when there is no chance of hitting the ball and not when there is no point.

The Elima penalty was a penalty and nothing more, he went into the tackle, the ball was still in play so it wasnt in any way late, or dangerous it was just hard as nails.

The boot didn't make contact with the head though. His head hit Foster's knee which was what did the damage. The ball was free at the moment he flicked his foot out and the contact with the play was unintentional.

The Elima incident is a penalty and a borderline suspension even if Gaskell had the ball. It was high, contact was with the head and he took three or four steps after the knock on before he hit him. It was needless and just him lashing out at an easy target after he'd been niggling with Wilkin for a while. The ball wasn't still in play at all and Elima knew it, whether the ref had blown or not. You don't ever see players getting smashed after routine knock ons, it's just one of those things professional players don't do. If a player knocks on and the ref is slow with blowing the whistle, you don't smash them, it's not on. In that situation 99% of players would focus on the scrum or be pumped about forcing the error.

If the try had already been scored, then it cant be an 8 pointer



And i thought it was knee to head