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| A player get sin binned for, admittedly, a late shoulder charge--yet two other players stay on the field for a high reckless challenge and kicking out in the tackle??
Senior should never have kicked out like he did and once again gets away with nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
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| Because they were from Leeds.
Why did Coley get penalised for kicking the ball away but McGuire didn't?
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| He'll get a letter from the RFL.
Peacock's high shot wasn't bad. It was instinctive and he actually hit Tomkins' hand rather than his head. It looked worse than it was. Ref penalised it correctly.
I don't think there were any major perversions of justice committed today, it was just an incredibly tight game and there had to be one loser. It hurts but thats how it is.
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| It wasn't even late, the ball had gone literally milliseconds earlier. Ignoring the fact Farrell had jumped to deflect the ball so had little control and couldn't pull out (as in he was committed)
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| How can a player drop another player on his head, which the referee and linesman both acknowledge, but still be allowed to stay on the pitch?
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| If he hit his hand then it shouldnt have been a penalty then.
Senior kicked out and whether he caught Tomkins accidentally or not it was dangerous. Again the ref--who I thought generally had a good game--thought it wasn only worthy of a penalty. Surely kicking out is a yellow card?
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| Quote ="RescuedBlue"How can a player drop another player on his head, which the referee and linesman both acknowledge, but still be allowed to stay on the pitch?'"
Because he didnt drop on his head. It was dangerous but clearly landed on his back.
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| Peacock's high tackle was deliberate. he should have walked. he also hit high twice in that same tackle that is no accident.
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| Quote ="RescuedBlue"How can a player drop another player on his head, which the referee and linesman both acknowledge, but still be allowed to stay on the pitch?'"
Quote ="John S"Because he didnt drop on his head. It was dangerous but clearly landed on his back'"
Quote ="John S"Senior kicked out and whether he caught Tomkins accidentally or not it was dangerous. Again the ref--who I thought generally had a good game--thought it wasn only worthy of a penalty. Surely kicking out is a yellow card?'"
So Wigan player commits an offence that you say was dangerous, but he should stay on the pitch, however a Leeds player that commits and offence that YOU say was dangerous, and he should go off the pitch?
Hmmmm.....wonder if you're another bitter Leeds hater?
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| I was thinking earlier how arrogant Leeds fans come across sometimes on these forums, but I can see why now Fantastic. Boo hoo, poor Wigan.
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| Quote ="RescuedBlue"So Wigan player commits an offence that you say was dangerous, but he should stay on the pitch, however a Leeds player that commits and offence that YOU say was dangerous, and he should go off the pitch?
Hmmmm.....wonder if you're another bitter Leeds hater?
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Senior actually caused damage to the player though.
The tackle may have been dangerous, but they made sure he was dropped on his back not his head. He got up straight away.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Because they were from Leeds.
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Why did Coley get penalised for kicking the ball away but McGuire didn't[/u?'"
Last 2 thursday night games, won and lost on the exact same thing, they can't use the old "can't see everthing excuse" on this one can they, lets face it they are picking and choosing when they blow the whistle.
Its a tough job but they have to be consistent on this one for me.
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| It's not exactly the first time Leeds players have been caught kicking out at Wigan players in a high profile match is it?
Lee Smith's stamp on Phil Bailey's face in '08 for example.
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| Some terrible decisions.
Farrell. Committed to the block - had already jumped and was in the air when McGuire kicked. How is he supposed to pull out?
Senior. Accidental or not, he's kicked out. Wigan player has to go off, Senior plays on.
Peacock. Ok, this happens a lot - a player steps inside and the defender throws out an arm. But he also swings with his other arm - two high shots in one tackle.
'Accidental offside'???? **edit - I'll give him that one!**
Video ref decision - turnover?? How is it a turnover when Smith has touched the ball - and knocked it on?? It's either a knock on or held up over the line.
Shame, because overall I thought Bentham was doing ok.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Senior actually caused damage to the player though.
The tackle may have been dangerous, but they made sure he was dropped on his back not his head. He got up straight away.'"
Oh well thats alright then
I'm sure Senior hit the spot he was after, what with seeing Joel Tomkins' temple through those three players that were on top of him and just hitting the right spot. Great shot don't you think?
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| Quote ="Cronus"Some terrible decisions.
Farrell. Committed to the block - had already jumped and was in the air when McGuire kicked. How is he supposed to pull out?
Senior. Accidental or not, he's kicked out. Wigan player has to go off, Senior plays on.
Peacock. Ok, this happens a lot - a player steps inside and the defender throws out an arm. But he also swings with his other arm - two high shots in one tackle.
'Accidental offside'???? I stand to be corrected here, but I assume this means the referee has deemed Richards was in front of Tomkins when he kicked? Having watched it back, he was nowhere near offside, he was actually stood a good 2-3 metres behind Tomkins, not even running up.
Video ref decision - turnover?? How is it a turnover when Smith has touched the ball - and knocked it on?? It's either a knock on or held up over the line.
Shame, because overall I thought Bentham was doing ok.'"
I think the accidental offside was because the kick hit a Wigan player, not Richards regathering it. I stand to be corrected though.
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| Quote ="RescuedBlue"So Wigan player commits an offence that you say was dangerous, but he should stay on the pitch, however a Leeds player that commits and offence that YOU say was dangerous, and he should go off the pitch?
Hmmmm.....wonder if you're another bitter Leeds hater?
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I should have put--potentially dangerous. His feet went above the horizontal and that is a penalty. If he had landed on his head then it would have been red.
Not bothered which team won today but Leeds should at one point--if not two--have been down to 12 men.
Now as for tomorrow's game---come on Bradford cos I cant stand Wire
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"I think the accidental offside was because the kick hit a Wigan player, not Richards regathering it. I stand to be corrected though.'"
You are correct.
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"I think the accidental offside was because the kick hit a Wigan player, not Richards regathering it. I stand to be corrected though.'"
Yep, fair enough, watched it again. I hadn't even looked for that, just assumed it had hit a Leeds player and Richards was the one penalised. Scratch that moan!!
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| Quote ="Enicomb"It wasn't even late......'"
I stopped reading at this point.
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| Quote ="Saddened!".
Peacock's high shot wasn't bad. It was instinctive and he actually hit Tomkins' hand rather than his head. It looked worse than it was. Ref penalised it correctly.
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Agree about the first shot being instinctive as he lined Tomkins up only for Tomkins to step him. But Peacock then turns round and swins another arm at him. Should have been given 10 considering what Farrell went for.
On another note, I thought Peacock was outstanding today (apart from the above). Possibly the best forward on the pitch.
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| One could argue that had peacock not bought tomkins down head first he would have scored a try.
One could also say that however accidental seniors kick to joel tomkins head was, he was still kicking out in the tackle and still caught him, perhaps he shouldnt of been kicking out as pointed out by the commentary team. A player can show his urgency to get to his feet without doing the kan kan. in my opinion a needless and reckless action by senior - no surprise there though!
On friday night wakefield travel to leeds and should a wakefield player ground say danny mcguire in the same situation as peacock on tomkins, the wakefield player will, more than likely, go for a minimum of 10 minutes and may even get sent off after the referee consults the south stand and kevin sinfield.
likewise, should a wakefield player split a leeds players head wide open whilst kicking out in a tackle, albeit accidental, he will be more than likely put on report and found guilty of some sort of reckless actions and recieve a ban along with a 10 minute spell on the sidelines.
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"One could argue that had peacock not bought tomkins down head first he would have scored a try.
One could also say that however accidental seniors kick to joel tomkins head was, he was still kicking out in the tackle and still caught him, perhaps he shouldnt of been kicking out as pointed out by the commentary team. A player can show his urgency to get to his feet without doing the kan kan. in my opinion a needless and reckless action by senior - no surprise there though!
On friday night wakefield travel to leeds and should a wakefield player ground say danny mcguire in the same situation as peacock on tomkins, the wakefield player will, more than likely, go for a minimum of 10 minutes and may even get sent off after the referee consults the south stand and kevin sinfield.
likewise, should a wakefield player split a leeds players head wide open whilst kicking out in a tackle, albeit accidental, he will be more than likely put on report and found guilty of some sort of reckless actions and recieve a ban along with a 10 minute spell on the sidelines.'"
WE ALL HATE LEEDS SCUM WE ALL HATE LEEDS SCUM WE ALL HATE LEEDS SCUM....<repeat to fade>
Get over yourself you big baby
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| The Farrell "chargedown" was one of those clear cases of the player going in with the sole intention of getting a shot on the kicker at the time the ball is kicked. A worthy tactic, it's important to put those kickers off their game, but the player has to be aware of the penalty for being late.
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"On friday night wakefield travel to leeds and should a wakefield player ground say danny mcguire in the same situation as peacock on tomkins, the wakefield player will, more than likely, go for a minimum of 10 minutes and may even get sent off after the referee consults the south stand and kevin sinfield.
likewise, should a wakefield player split a leeds players head wide open whilst kicking out in a tackle, albeit accidental, he will be more than likely put on report and found guilty of some sort of reckless actions and recieve a ban along with a 10 minute spell on the sidelines.'"
it was unlikely he could card a Leeds player for foul play after he did not card the Wigan player for a spear tackle
you misunderstand "consulting the captain and the south stand" with the referee watching the big screen as he has missed another incident
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