Watched last nights game, and how he can be left to ref at this level is mindboggling. He has been rubbish since day one but that was terrible last night.

He is awful but he is not the worst of a very average and sometimes terrible bunch.

Terry Halibut takes that honour for me.

Wish they would all give over with that ridiculous MMMMOOOOOOVVVVEEEE hollering

Why? It's the mics that should be turned off.

I know,turn the mics off and we wont have to listen to them shouting and bawling all through the game

They have to explain to the thick badly coached/trained players what to do!!! otherwise the players would stand around wondering what to do next!!!

Offside is the touchjudges responsibility now.

Cas were given I think 5 more penalties than Warrington, including one for knocking on.

=#8040FFWarrington were given a penalty for Mathers diving, Snitch being onside and Hudson touching somebodies back, Offside at the kickoff when just a few minutes earlier Briers took a drop out a good 3 metres off the goal line (which is a penalty on the 10) and a try from a clearly offside position + the 2 players not seeing red so it's pretty fair to say Thaler gave Cas a tough time. As for 5 more penalties, all them came at the end when Warrington were time wasting - Warrington got a load of penalties from 10-0 down that got them back into the game.

Unhappy?

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you know what to do but I doubt if you will.

Serious question, what responsibilities do touch judges have? Other than marking the 10, or putting the flag up for a conversion, they don't really seem to have that much involvment in a game. Is this because the ref tells them what he wants from them before hand or is it not their job to make certain calls?

I thought he had a fairly good game

Best ref in Superleague.

And 4 of them were given in the last 2 minutes of the game.

My team got the result, so I'm happy.

Doesn't take away the fact that Thaler was $hite yesterday.

"Serious question, what responsibilities do touch judges have? Other than marking the 10, or putting the flag up for a conversion,"

determining when a player is in touch

when allowed, advising the ref

when something dangerous happens, advising the ref

They are not linesmen/assistant refs.

I agree on that one he was very confusing on Friday, sure he makes it up as he goes along.

reckon if was Ganson reffing Morley would have walked,

he's trying for the steve ganson prat of the year award. some of the calls he made were embarrassing. the hudson "interference", followed 30 seconds later by mylers "knock on". then 30 seconds after that not giving a blatant ball steel against warrington sort of summed him up. all 3 were totally wrong

Unlike the players who REALLY don't have a clue

Serious question here but in your opinion do refs ever make mistakes?

Players, coaches and even owners make mistakes and I've seen you comment against many of them but never the refs?

Now I realise some go 2 far in their opinions against refs but even yourself has to admit Thaler was poor last night?

I accept that match officials make mistakes and some horrendous ones at that.

But so do the players and the coaches.

I would strongly suggest that the mistakes the match officials make have less bearing on the score than players mistakes have and the coaches game plan.

It's been like this since the game began and will never change.

My onlly concern is trial by television which is NOT consistant because not all games are covered the same way and the game is not played at s -------- l ------o-------------w m ----------o -------- t ---------- i ---------- o---------- n.

And as for the time to make a decision!!!!!!!!!!

You at worst have a 50/50 chance! Yet it can take longer than it does to run the length of the field.

But the ability to cope with the decision , right or wrong, is the hard part and some just find it incredibly difficult.

See, with Leaguefan, when someone posts a thread about the referee having a nightmare, he's in his element. He does truly believe that officials don't have to answer to anyone when they make a mistake. He then proceeds to use that immortal line, "well, if you think that you can do better, why don't you take it up?"



However, when a player makes an error, he proceeds to gets the kleenex out like a shot.

I must admit though, whenever I'm having a crap day, I'll come on here and read some of his inane ramblings and can't help but be cheered up.

are they still allowed to put their flag up and run on for cases of foul play? when was the last time you saw that happen?

I know players make mistakes but these are often punished by the rfl, quite rightly. With that in mind should refs not be punished as well. Demote them for some time ect. We need more money investing in developing some young refs, so we have plenty of top grade ones. All teams even lower grades deserve it.