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It's a left field bid, but definitely curious. If Paris gets financial backing in France, the RFL will ensure they get into Super League. I fear a few wobbly knees at some current Super League clubs at this news.
Google Translation
Bernard Laporte confirmed to The Independent that the Stade French assumes a good place in Super League for 2012. Former Secretary of State for Sports and coach of the France XV can rely on the support of the FFR XIII.
I've actually met Richard Lewis (owner of the Super League) last Monday in Paris. He is very interested in the project. He invited me to the Final Four Nations (England-Australia) next Saturday in Leeds. We are only at initial contact, but the draft is. "Joint early yesterday afternoon, Bernard Laporte confirms the information revealed by the Independent in its Saturday edition: French wishes Stadium integrate the Super League in 2012. "And the Super League is aware of this opportunity. Paris has
economic asset and media that do not leave indifferent Richard Lewis, "added the former state secrets to sports, the XV coach and architect of France sports climbing the French stage. now director of the club in Paris, Laporte Guazzini said that Max is, at present, not involved in the project. Guazzini Not? "It Gilles Morin, the French president of Stade Omnisports umbrella all sections of the club, which is," said Laporte. "But nothing prevents Max, if he wants to join us later." To reform the land the duo Guazzini Laporte? "I have neither the desire nor the skills to lead league "Laporte calm." I've always been sensitive to XIII, while the union still must for me. These are two cousins with different characteristics. "On the traces of meteoric PSG league in 96-97, this project there is likely to succeed? It has in any case of serious advantages. The Super League, as it has done with the Catalans Dragons, wants to expand its zone of influence set in northern England.
Larrat support In autumn 2011, the existing allowances (14, including 12 English, 1 French and 1 Welsh) will be redistributed. The year 2012 could therefore accommodate the newcomers. In September 2012, should also completed the work of the new Jean-Bouin stadium in Paris. It can accommodate 25 000 spectators. "Stadium French wants to live this stage 12 months on 12" announced Bernard Laporte. And timetables Top 14 Super League-are complementary.
Finally, the French Federation is campaigning for. "We have never hidden that France needed a second team in Super League, or even a third by 2012. Paris, through Bernard Laporte, is very interested, but it does not close not the door to other projects such as Toulouse. Some investors seem to be attracted by the Paris project. For us, it is obviously an approach that appeals to us, Paris offers so many interests. Remember also, to prepare competitive French club in Super League and expand the pool of players lights, we'll hire a team of less than 20 years in the Reserve League Super League led by David Despin, "said President Nicolas Larrat.
With what tank? But the black spots remain. XIII The French did precisely this reservoir sufficient for two or three teams in Super League? The results of the team of France at the Four Nations show the opposite. English clubs will agree they share a little more cake Super League with other French? Not a foregone conclusion. A franchise in Paris it not weaken the Catalans Dragons? If the viability of the project remains raised, its existence is now certain. It is a real first step.
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It's a left field bid, but definitely curious. If Paris gets financial backing in France, the RFL will ensure they get into Super League. I fear a few wobbly knees at some current Super League clubs at this news.
Google Translation
Bernard Laporte confirmed to The Independent that the Stade French assumes a good place in Super League for 2012. Former Secretary of State for Sports and coach of the France XV can rely on the support of the FFR XIII.
I've actually met Richard Lewis (owner of the Super League) last Monday in Paris. He is very interested in the project. He invited me to the Final Four Nations (England-Australia) next Saturday in Leeds. We are only at initial contact, but the draft is. "Joint early yesterday afternoon, Bernard Laporte confirms the information revealed by the Independent in its Saturday edition: French wishes Stadium integrate the Super League in 2012. "And the Super League is aware of this opportunity. Paris has
economic asset and media that do not leave indifferent Richard Lewis, "added the former state secrets to sports, the XV coach and architect of France sports climbing the French stage. now director of the club in Paris, Laporte Guazzini said that Max is, at present, not involved in the project. Guazzini Not? "It Gilles Morin, the French president of Stade Omnisports umbrella all sections of the club, which is," said Laporte. "But nothing prevents Max, if he wants to join us later." To reform the land the duo Guazzini Laporte? "I have neither the desire nor the skills to lead league "Laporte calm." I've always been sensitive to XIII, while the union still must for me. These are two cousins with different characteristics. "On the traces of meteoric PSG league in 96-97, this project there is likely to succeed? It has in any case of serious advantages. The Super League, as it has done with the Catalans Dragons, wants to expand its zone of influence set in northern England.
Larrat support In autumn 2011, the existing allowances (14, including 12 English, 1 French and 1 Welsh) will be redistributed. The year 2012 could therefore accommodate the newcomers. In September 2012, should also completed the work of the new Jean-Bouin stadium in Paris. It can accommodate 25 000 spectators. "Stadium French wants to live this stage 12 months on 12" announced Bernard Laporte. And timetables Top 14 Super League-are complementary.
Finally, the French Federation is campaigning for. "We have never hidden that France needed a second team in Super League, or even a third by 2012. Paris, through Bernard Laporte, is very interested, but it does not close not the door to other projects such as Toulouse. Some investors seem to be attracted by the Paris project. For us, it is obviously an approach that appeals to us, Paris offers so many interests. Remember also, to prepare competitive French club in Super League and expand the pool of players lights, we'll hire a team of less than 20 years in the Reserve League Super League led by David Despin, "said President Nicolas Larrat.
With what tank? But the black spots remain. XIII The French did precisely this reservoir sufficient for two or three teams in Super League? The results of the team of France at the Four Nations show the opposite. English clubs will agree they share a little more cake Super League with other French? Not a foregone conclusion. A franchise in Paris it not weaken the Catalans Dragons? If the viability of the project remains raised, its existence is now certain. It is a real first step.
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Will RL ever learn?
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Too early IMO.
If the Dragons were producing floods of young SL standard French players then I might have been more inclined to be positive, but a second French franchise at this stage dilutes the available talent too much.
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I think the RFL would have to ensure that any Paris club was financially underwritten for the three years of any franchise before they go near the idea. Another PSG fiasco would be a disaster.
But... the French seem to have a way of raising corporate and local govt finance that we can't match. With the right financial guarantees, Paris is definitely worth investigating seriously.
As an expansionist, I would love to see a second French team, and Paris is as good a location as Toulouse, if not better. The success of Stade de France shows that with time and investment, rugby, and therefore rugby league, can succeed in Paris.
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There is also the bonus that the French will develop a new derby between the Dragons and PSG and we develop our rivalry with the Hairy Queens.
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The FFRX13 or whatever the governing body calls themselves have recently appointed 30 new development officers wit han aim to increase the playing numbers and popularity in SOUTHERN france.
While im for expansion, i can not see a Paris franchise till about 2015. Toulouse will be struggling in 2012, but i would like to see them in.
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I've said this before, but I think it's worth repeating.
Rugby Union in Paris fifteen years ago was perceived as a sport for peasants from the South. Parisian rugby teams were watched by crowds numbering in the 100s. Max Guazzini turned Stade from a London Skolars sized outfit into one of the world's biggest RU clubs, in the space of a decade. If there is a *serious* bid from Stade to join SL (ie one with credible financial backing), it would be madness to turn them away.
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theres barely enough players for one french super league team, where are they going to come from for a second team?
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Why? No players, no fans and we saw what happened last time. Build on the strong foundations and that means Toulouse if we are to have another French team.
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The odds of Stade forming an <i>treiziste</i> team and meeting the published licence criteria in time for 2012 are …?
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I reckon 2012 will be too early, 2015 might be adifferant story though, if 3 french teams make it to sl and can flourish (as les cats have done) with the backing of people like this we could see a fench fulltime league within 10 years, definatley something to consider.
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There will be a lot of 30 year old Australian players rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of topping up their pension funds.
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Toulouse are more important than Paris to RL in France at this stage. Any talk of including Paris has to be AFTER Toulouse in my and most other people's opinions it would seem.
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probably irrelevant  Not wishing to come over all albert, but there's already more amateur RL activity in Paris/Ile de France than in say Wales, or Salford. They would have the best stadium in SL. The RU side is the richest in the world. Less than 10% of their *playing* budget would max out on our salary cap - they are not going to struggle to put together a competitive squad if it's a serious bid.
A full house 80k at the Stade de France, for a double header of Superleague/Top14? Simply cannot see the RFL turning it down in favour of Toulouse, Salford, Celtic, Widnes, Wakefield...
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Not wishing to come over all albert, but there's already more amateur RL activity in Paris/Ile de France than in say Wales, or Salford. They would have the best stadium in SL. The RU side is the richest in the world. Less than 10% of their *playing* budget would max out on our salary cap - they are not going to struggle to put together a competitive squad if it's a serious bid.
A full house 80k at the Stade de France, for a double header of Superleague/Top14? Simply cannot see the RFL turning it down in favour of Toulouse, Salford, Celtic, Widnes, Wakefield...
Of course, it all depends on how seriously Stade are taking it. If it's just going to be a case of you can use our name and stadium, then it's a non-starter. But if they do put significant resources in - and planning on winning SL?'"
I tend to agree. Despite what some poster's think, I think the current regime at the RFL is very strategic in its thinking. The decision to bring in Catalans, keep Harlequins, and bring in the Crusaders, shows that they are working to a steady beat of expansion. A Paris team with some serious, and I stress serious, financial backing, is something that they'd be crazy not to consider. PSG were never seriously interested in investing the money to succeed. Stade Francaise might be. If they are, we should bite their hands off. It would immediately bring a better tv contract in France, and thus widen the financial base of the sport.
I completely understand why people in Widnes/Leigh/Halifax/Featherstone/Barrow etc, hate this kind of discussion. But money will talk in this situation. None of the obvious north of England sides who would like to expand offer much potential revenue. They offer history and continuity, but at the moment, that doesn't cut it. |
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First of all, wouldn't a team be a good start? Get them in the LER with the aim to get them in the Championship ala Toulouse, in the not too distant future, then take it from there.
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It would help if the LER was able to go full time and turn it into some kind of French Superleague.
Featuring Paris and maybe some other new teams.
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Too right, Team full of aussies & kiwis if they get it off the ground....the stade francais oooonion side is full of merc..sorry foreign players
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