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| Just an observation about a man who I consider to be one of the worse refs I have ever seen. ( I can go back to 1976 ).
Last week in Hull he time and again called players back who where off side. He rarely penalised the player(s), as the player would stop in his tracks and try not interfer with play though he clearly was.
He did this again tonight when a Saints player was off side. This was on Wakefields last play and resulted in Danny Brough kicking out on the full. This I believe was because the offside player was interfering with play and caused DB to rush his kick.
The resulting scrum lead to a try for Saints from a forward pass.
Alibert ( if you watch it again) can be heard shouting to the Saints player that he is offside. After the kick he should imo have penalised Saints as there was no advantage, and DB was clearly effected by the on coming offside player.
They same happened last week at Hull.
If a player is offside he should be penalised as he must be interfering with play.
This is not an issue that would have altered the result tonight, but it could have. Does anyone agree.?
Before commenting try and watch the incident again. It was the try that gave Saints their 30th point.
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| I thought tonight he was entirely random.
I wouldn't say he particularly favoured any side, just missed some really easy calls (those two stripped balls from Wakey WTF?).
Not a good performance at all, but as you say it hardly influenced the result.
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| He gave Ashurst offside when he was clearly down injured on his knees?
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| Mister Terry Alibert certainly made some strange decisions tonight.
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"Mister Terry Alibert certainly made some strange decisions tonight.'" i'm am totally bemused as to how the hell did he get to be a ref nether mind a super league one
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| feel he's getting a fair amount of stick cos he's french.
go on the wigan boards. the ref tonight is kooping all kinds of flak.
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| Quote ="RENDELL"Just an observation about a man who I consider to be one of the worse refs I have ever seen. ( I can go back to 1976 ).
Last week in Hull he time and again called players back who where off side. He rarely penalised the player(s), as the player would stop in his tracks and try not interfer with play though he clearly was.
He did this again tonight when a Saints player was off side. This was on Wakefields last play and resulted in Danny Brough kicking out on the full. This I believe was because the offside player was interfering with play and caused DB to rush his kick.
The resulting scrum lead to a try for Saints from a forward pass.
Alibert ( if you watch it again) can be heard shouting to the Saints player that he is offside. After the kick he should imo have penalised Saints as there was no advantage, and DB was clearly effected by the on coming offside player.
They same happened last week at Hull.
If a player is offside he should be penalised as he must be interfering with play.
This is not an issue that would have altered the result tonight, but it could have. Does anyone agree.?
Before commenting try and watch the incident again. It was the try that gave Saints their 30th point.'"
Don't worry he evened it up in the 2nd half when he gave a penalty against Ashurst when he was injured and twice gave Wakefield the possession when they reefed the ball with more than 1 in the tackle.
He made some very bizarre decisions against both sides tonight, I must say.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"feel he's getting a fair amount of stick cos he's french.
go on the wigan boards. the ref tonight is kooping all kinds of flak.'"
The same was implied this week on the Quins site. I am not having a go because of his nationality, and to suggest as much is frankly pathetic. The guy is totally out of his depth (imo) He should not be allowed near a BARLA match let alone SL from what I have seen.
If anything it is tokenisum (sp) with SL Europe wanting to show its ethnic diversity by having a French ref. Out with the Aussie lets have a French man. Its back firing badly imo.
His performance last week at the KC was shocking and tonight he was average at best.
Give me Klein anyday
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| He is absolutley Awful didnt understand some of his decisions
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| Quote ="RENDELL"The same was implied this week on the Quins site. I am not having a go because of his nationality, and to suggest as much is frankly pathetic. The guy is totally out of his depth (imo) He should not be allowed near a BARLA match let alone SL from what I have seen.'"
if he's not up to it he'll be demoted soon or replaced come the end of the season.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"feel he's getting a fair amount of stick cos he's french.
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I think it's to do with the fact he's totally inept at this level rather than his nationality.
If anybody wants to chuck the usual response of could you you do any better, then my answer is Yes I honestly think I could based on the 2 times I've seen Alibert officiate this year.
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| Quote ="-DAZ-"I think it's to do with the fact he's totally inept at this level rather than his nationality.
If anybody wants to chuck the usual response of could you you do any better, then my answer is Yes I honestly think I could based on the 2 times I've seen Alibert officiate this year.'"
as i said, have a word with some of the wigan fans after tonight's game or catalans' fans after last weeks defeat to bradford.
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| Last week at the KC was the first time I've seen a touch judge have to come on the field and tell the ref what to do.
No disrespect to the bloke, but he doesn't seem to be ready for Superleague.
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"I thought tonight he was entirely random.
I wouldn't say he particularly favoured any side, just missed some really easy calls (those two stripped balls from Wakey WTF?).
Not a good performance at all, but as you say it hardly influenced the result.'"
that was exactly how he was for Hull-Cas last week, favoured neither side, just baffled them and the crowd with erratic decisions. He isn't up to the standard, but we have little other choices with the ref shortage.
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| against wakefield 2 weeks ago it was our head and feed in the scrum but pointed to wakefield the guy creates confusion.
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| Quote ="Wild Child LukeSykes83"against wakefield 2 weeks ago it was our head and feed in the scrum but pointed to wakefield the guy creates confusion.'"
He did that tonight early on. Pointed the scrum to Saints, then Wakefield put the ball in, that's why there was all that confusion from the scrum in the first half.
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| He made some odd decisions, but it didn't alter the end result.
All week we have heard the press saying this wasn't about the result etc but about the young lad who passed away.
Both teams were affected, so maybe the referee was as well.
Not the best of night's for either side, but a great crowd tribute to an unfortunate event.
Almost felt that this game should not have been played and both sides given a bye.
Life does go one though.
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| Quote ="matt_p"He made some odd decisions, but it didn't alter the end result.
All week we have heard the press saying this wasn't about the result etc but about the young lad who passed away.
Both teams were affected, so maybe the referee was as well.
Not the best of night's for either side, but a great crowd tribute to an unfortunate event.
Almost felt that this game should not have been played and both sides given a bye.
Life does go one though.'"
I totaly agree with every word of that, thought the ref was a totaly clueless at times for both sides, but hey i don't care.
RL won last night
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| Quote ="kentcat"i'm am totally bemused as to how the hell did he get to be a ref nether mind a super league one'"
Because you couldn't get off your backside and do better?
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| He definatley gets the award for the ref with the most annoying voice.
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| I think he made a few strange desisions, but tbf to him I have seen games he has contolled reasonably well, its his firts year in SL ( i think) and he should be allowed to make mistakes if he learns from them in the future, just as young players would.
Perhaps not the man for the job last night though with all that went on.
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| Omfg how the hell has this numpty landed himself in Super League??? He only started reffing NL1 last season and was an utter imbecile back then...
It's sm gone mad. He shouldn't even be allowed to ref amateur level games.
Worst ref ever.
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| Quote ="bUsTiNyAbALLs"Omfg how the hell has this numpty landed himself in Super League??? He only started reffing NL1 last season and was an utter imbecile back then...
It's sm gone mad. He shouldn't even be allowed to ref amateur level games.
Worst ref ever.'"
I remember him reffing a Game at Doncaster against Halifax about 4 years or so ago. He's been about since then
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| I didn't think he was great tonight, however I have been impressed with him the last few times I have seen him. He is definitely getting much much better and as good as many others. Sometimes his signals and the fact that his English isn't brilliant doesn't help us to understand what he has given, but he is ok.
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| Quote ="RENDELL"Just an observation about a man who I consider to be one of the worse refs I have ever seen. ( I can go back to 1976 ).
Last week in Hull he time and again called players back who where off side. He rarely penalised the player(s), as the player would stop in his tracks and try not interfer with play though he clearly was.
He did this again tonight when a Saints player was off side. This was on Wakefields last play and resulted in Danny Brough kicking out on the full. This I believe was because the offside player was interfering with play and caused DB to rush his kick.
The resulting scrum lead to a try for Saints from a forward pass. '"
You really do have no understanding of the laws of the game or the role of a referee, do you?
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