One great outcome of this RLWC was the emergence of England RL as a brand. The players played with pride and the RL community got behind them. However one thing that REALLY grated on me was the England RL logo. To me it looks like something that might be better suited on the shirt of an EDL supporter not a world class athlete representing his country. Similarly the Mascot (the crusader knight) looks like something that the EDL youth wing would deploy on impoverished streets in search of young recruits!

EDL aside...In terms of a logo I'd sooner see something traditional and more professional looking. Does anyone agree / have any ideas??


NB: Not debating whether England should be playing as GB - as this is covered elsewhere....

I don't think it's too bad. We have to have to St George's flag as part of the logo. Just shame idiots at EDL have adopted that. But we shouldnt change for them idiots

Sure I agree it could have the st george's flag (although notice not many other england sports teams do). But to me it just looks unprofessional....like indeed it could have been done by an EDL idiot!

Dont think it is all that bad myself.Maybe could be tweaked a little.You need to stick with things for them to grow,chopping and changing all the time does little for development, we as RL fans should realise that more than most.

Where do we go anyway? three lions is football and Cricket and red rose England RU.Can't think of too many solutions TBH.

Modern is good but the current one is lazy and obvious. I hate it, and the mascot. A knight crusader FFS! Both are so far away from representing a modern, progressive England it's untrue.

A shield with a red rose and white rose with the stems crossing all above three gold lions.

Why? Most other nations in the RLWC don't have the flag on the logo, and those that do are a bit more subtle.

The logo is pretty much the main reason I've not bought any England WC related gear this year (or any England stuff since it was introduced).

I hate the logo, it looks amateurish and . The original England RL badge was fine, 3 lions against a St George cross.

Yeah...this one. More marketable.

No reason why three lions can't be used.

for the greater good of England.

Anybody able to post mock ups of various ideas on here?

I see the logic in this and personally would like it HOWEVER it has northern connotations and whilst the domestic game for the foreseeable future will be seen as 'northern' the beauty of the international game is that anyone can get behind England RL whether your from Wigan or Weymouth because its England....We saw the beginnings of this on Saturday at wembley

Thus i think it would be better to do something more generic and inclusive.

I agree with you 100%. Without being defensive, I think the 3 lions would be the key feature in my suggested logo. I was just explaining my thinking behind the roses. England RU use just a red rose but don't think people see this as representing just lancashire.

yes very true... maybe i'm being too defensive. had a look on here for inspiration Tudor Rose is there... i really like the royal coat of arms of England en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_s ... of_England

yes very true... maybe i'm being too defensive. had a look on here for inspiration Tudor Rose is there... i really like the royal coat of arms of England en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_s ... of_England

An Aussie might tell you, "Stand up smurf". And he'd be right, England should be more English and Wales should be more Welsh, it's nothing to do with the colour of your skin but the language and how well you speak it.

The badge could be worse, it's orite, you should keep it. Besides IMO should be Europe.

We'll professional opinion is that the current England badge is a big obvious and not very iconic at all, I think it could have been far better.

The GB RL lion logo is IMO an absolute classic, a great piece of sporting logo design in fact it's one of my favourite logos of all time (it's probably sad that I have such a list

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Couldn't we utilise this in some fashion?



Yes it's 3 lions but it differentiates itself from the football version by being red instead of white. Insert the words England Rugby League somewhere.

*EDIT - sorry just noticed jamesthepratt had linked to it

The England cross badge is ok in my opinion, but I wonder if a rugby ball and a XIII could be incorporated in some way.

The old England crest was dreadful.

The gold/red three lions crest is used already - by England Hockey.

A tudor flower would be a viable option, but I doubt most people would see it and think England.

Maybe have a teacup and teapot?

If it aint broke don't fix it.

Have the Golden Lion's head on the old Britain top, like the one used in the 2001 Kangaroos tour, but with a round collar. The England flag should have a bit of blue in it anyhow, it looks terrible IMO.

A more modern take on this would have been better

Having said that I don;t actually mind the current shield one.

Excuse my ignorance but why is the English rose red the same as Lancashires?

Because Lancashire won the War of the Roses

I did these a few years back when they were originally redesigning the logo.

Dont mention the war!

That top left logo looks brilliant much better than we the one we have but think we have missed the boat to re-design it now.